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Well, the saga continues. I'll let Jody (3bals) fill in the gory details when he and his wife get to their campground at the Grand Canyon either late today or early tomorrow and post the pictures. Suffice it to say that about 2:15 PM on Tuesday (6/18/13) I get a text from Jody : R u working? Call me

So I call back about two minutes after he texted me, just after I got off of work (talk about timing, I had just turned my phone back on seconds before he texted) only to go to his voicemail. So I texted him with: What's up?

Jody calls me back and tells me "I'm here in Lincoln."

Now this in and of itself didn't surprise me, as Lincoln is on the way from the Twin Cities to the Grand Canyon's South Rim, and we did have a Most Excellent Adventure driving from here to Reno in his Aveo to pick up the 6.5 motor home and back to here in February of 2011, but his next words kind of floored me.

"The motor home's dead," was the first thing out of his mouth after the opening statement, "It was running kind of rough when I stopped at the camp ground office and shut it off to check in, then when I came back out it wouldn't restart, just turned over and didn't fire off. I think I found that noise that I thought was an injector on number eight, there's a gash open in the valve cover from something inside over the number eight cylinder. Do you know where the Camp-a-Way campground is?" he asked me. "Sorry I didn't answer when you called me back, but I was on the phone with AAA at the time, and they wouldn't tow me the 100 yards from the campground office to my RV pad, but they WOULD tow me from in front of the office to a shop in town. 40 years a member of AAA, and they can't tow me 100 yards? I had a few choice words for them!"

"Hell, Jody, why don't I just hop in the Suburban and come down there and pull your motor home to your pad? The 'Burb will pull 15,000 pounds of motor home no problem, screw Triple A, I got a 25' length of 3/8" high test chain with a clevis hook on each end for emergencies, I'll be there in about 20 minutes!"

So, I grabbed my chain and the insert for my receiver hitch and headed the couple of exits east on I-80 from my house to the Camp-a-Way off I-80 and I-180 at the Superior Street exit. Chained up the Suburban to the front frame of the motor home, and because of the one-way loop through the campground, even though it was 100 yards, if that, from where the beastie died to the pad site (going the "wrong" way and not being lined up right to tow it into its pad site), it was closer to a 1/4 mile drive, across a one-lane bridge, up and down a hill and then a sharp 90* left just past an on ground transformer box followed by an immediate 45* right across the grass, missing an ash tree on the right and the water and electrical hook ups on the left, as I towed the 25' motor home into the pad site from the back of the pad, instead of backing in at an angle off the access road like it was designed. Passed several Duramax Pickups with fifth wheel travel trailers as we made the grand 6.5 tour around the campground.

After disconnecting the chain, I gave Jody a lift over to the near by Harbor Freight to buy a 1 1/4" to 2" receiver adapter and a 2" receiver cargo basket to put on the back of the Aveo, as "Plan B" was to load a couple of coolers and stuff on the cargo carrier, pack the back of the Aveo, and continue the vacation to hike to the bottom of the Grand Canyon (starting on the North Rim) and back up to the top of the South Rim as originally planned - except without the motor home parked at the South Rim awaiting them with a shower, kitchen and a soft bed - now with a tent and two sleeping bags instead, while the dead beastie stayed a couple of weeks parked in the camp ground here in Lincoln.

Back at the campground after the Harbor Freight run, over a couple of beers and some munchies, Jody asks me "How much do I owe you for the tow, you burned fuel driving me around and stuff?"

"Not a damn thing, Jody. It's the six-five brotherhood thing. If it bothers you that much, you'll be back here on July 4th for the first day of the 40th Anniversary Zoofest Outdoor Blues Festival (an annual event celebrating the anniversary of the World Famous Blues Bar, the Zoo Bar here in downtown Lincoln) and you two were planning on going. So tell you what, the Fourth is my 52nd birthday, there's vendors there at the Zoofest, just buy me some BBQ from Famous Dave's and a couple of beers and we'll call it even."

So there it stands, Jody and his wife are in Moab right now for the night looking for a place to stay, having continued on with the Aveo, headed to the South Rim tomorrow to set up camp before getting a ride back to the North Rim to start their trek, the motor home is sitting here in Lincoln with a ruptured valve cover from as yet unknown cause, and it won't start, like either a second Heath remote PMD has died on it or it is in a no-fuel situation from another cause. Oh, yeah, Jody was having electrical problems right before the No-Start, kept blowing the fuse for the instrument panel every time he tried to move the electric seats back to pull the dog house cover off. To be dealt with one way or another when they return July 4th.
 
Well I guess I know where I am NOT buying injectors from. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
 
I just ordered Bosch injectors from Rock Auto last night for $41 each. Duraterm glow plugs for just under $8 each. With an installation kit for the injectors from SS Diesel, I came in just under $450 for new injectors, glow plugs, and an installation kit shipped. I also have a Diamond Eye exhaust coming from Leroy...
 
The saga continues, continued. Got a text from Jody 6/23. Fractured his leg a few miles into the hike down into the Grand Canyon. At first he thought it was a bad sprain. Was mule trained back up to the rim, then transported to the other side to the Park Service Aid Station where it was x-rayed. Bone fractured from his boot top to his ankle. Vacation over, he's in a walking cast but can't put any weight on it, can't use crutches because of his existing problem, so he's using a walker. He called me from Grand Junction, CO a few hours ago where he and his wife are staying the night on their way back in the Aveo to Lincoln. He'll have to arrange a tow for the motor home back up to the Twin Cities area from Lincoln, and most likely leave the toter the Aveo rides on in tow behind the motor home here at my house. Then once in Minnesota, turn around and drive back down here to retrieve the toter with his EC 6.5 dually, spend July 4th in Lincoln and celebrate my birthday at the Blues Festival, then leave the 5th to take the toter home. Talk about a Gilligan's Island vacation from the start. We're thinking the motor home's No-Start is the PMD, but there's still the bigger issue of the rupture through the valve cover to deal with, not to mention the mystery electrical problem in the motor homes wiring that keeps blowing fuzes.
 
Wow, sorry to hear about continued bad luck. Fact is always stranger than fiction.
 
Wow, sorry to hear about your challenges.

I personally think that the cost to tow that thing from AZ to MN would be such that it would be better to find a mechanic there and ship a Ted's 6.5 or a new GEP Optimiser for install in AZ and drive it back. Think of it this way, the tow costs are lost like taxes, never to be realized or used in the form of a hard asset like an engine. Throw those tow costs at a new engine solution and at least you have something to show for it and you no longer have an engine with a hole in it. That's what I'd do.
 
That is a very good point Big T, as thats gonna be a costly tow.

With a hole through the valve cover, you've got other issues. The extent of them are unknown, but very likely the engine is close to death's door step. I would much rather throw the tow costs at a new engine solution, than drag it back and try to bandage up the old. You get a new engine solution and the return trip, so it's a win, win solution and you'll have something to show for it. Just view it as the situation accelerating an engine replacement that you would likely have to do anyway, only it's about 1,400 miles away.
 
Well fellow 6.5ers,

We have made it back to the injured motorhome, with my broken fibula. The mule ride out of the canyon only cost $100 and most of the medical expenses are covered by my insurance.

Now the tow vs engine swap theories. I have AAA RV plus roadside and, just before leaving home, I increased my coverage to the premium plan. That means they will tow me up to 200 miles. I also have 3 family members on the policy so being creative, should be able to get me 3-200 tows and it's less than 400 miles from here to home. Plus, a couple of years ago, I purchased a brand new longblock 18:1 comp 6.5 engine from Peninsular in Mich. It is still sitting on the engine stand in my garage. I think that would make a better engine for my motorhome than my k2500 that I bought it for. There is a place in my hometown that refurbishes busses and motorhomes and I think they would probably be the best suited for the engine swap, as it has to happen from the underside. I just don't think your average diesel repair shop would be capable of such a feet.

I plan on posting more of the story with photos when I finally make it home.
 
Did the bone stick out? :sick:
Sounds like you have a solid plan. Good luck, keep us posted.
 
No, the bone didn't stick out. In fact I only thought that it was sprained, except for the "pop" I heard when I went down and my 35 lb pack landed on my leg. We did try a self rescue at first, but a volunteer park trail person came along with an ice pack and an ace bandage. After icing and wrapping, we lightened my load by dividing it amongst the 3 of us. We tried to head up the trail again, but my leg gave out again after about 30 yds. The volunteer then decided to call for a mule extraction. A few hours later I was back up to the trail head and a ride back to the lodge. I didn't get to see medical until the next morning, where I found out that I had actually broke my leg, not just a sprained ankle like I thought.
 
Well fellow 6.5ers,

We have made it back to the injured motorhome, with my broken fibula. The mule ride out of the canyon only cost $100 and most of the medical expenses are covered by my insurance.

Now the tow vs engine swap theories. I have AAA RV plus roadside and, just before leaving home, I increased my coverage to the premium plan. That means they will tow me up to 200 miles. I also have 3 family members on the policy so being creative, should be able to get me 3-200 tows and it's less than 400 miles from here to home. Plus, a couple of years ago, I purchased a brand new longblock 18:1 comp 6.5 engine from Peninsular in Mich. It is still sitting on the engine stand in my garage. I think that would make a better engine for my motorhome than my k2500 that I bought it for. There is a place in my hometown that refurbishes busses and motorhomes and I think they would probably be the best suited for the engine swap, as it has to happen from the underside. I just don't think your average diesel repair shop would be capable of such a feet.

I plan on posting more of the story with photos when I finally make it home.

I'd recommend reading the fine print on the family AAA policy.

Always good to have a back-up engine. 18:1 compression 6.5 must be at least 10 years old, maybe more.

Hope the leg heals quickly.
 
As far as the AAA fine print goes, we'll deal with that when we get to it. At the very least, I'll get half the tow paid for.

I bought the 18:1 from Matt at Peninsular in late 08 or early 09, making it 4-5 years old. Unless he sold me NOS? Do you know something that I don't?
 
Ya know, a good trick to finding a reputable mechanic shop in an area your not familiar with (besides TTS member) is call the local Snapon or Mac Tools guy for their input. You just can't ask them while they are around any of their customers. Tool guys see it all.
Wish I could run out to you to help, 91 hour work week says not likely though. Best wishes for the leg and rig.
 
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