My HX40 install

[Husker6.5]

And more soup?

No, no soup! Get in back of line!

 

[n8in8or]

And more soup?

Only if your wife cooks it, the stuff you made tasted a bit too diesely....

 

[n8in8or]

I know it was talked about, and those two recently graduated high school guys did it, one mechanically actuated and the other boost (or was it vacuum-controlled) to experiment with vane actuation on their 6.5's using the VVT turbos off of a Second Gen 6.6 Duramax [or maybe they were off of the Cummins, oldheimers strikes again]. They even made it into the Readers Rides section of Diesel Power with their "twin trucks". I know they posted here on TTS shortly after getting into DP and said they'd keep us posted on how they performed/which set-up worked better, but I can't recall either of them posting much, if anything, after their initial fame/notoriety.

I would think that that would be an ideal turbo for the 6.5 as far as a best of both worlds for low-end boost and high rpm exhaust flow with some added fuel and a CAC.

I haven't seen their posts, but yes, the more I read the more I'm convinced an HE351VE with a Steed Banshee II controller is going to be the hot ticket for great low end boost response, good top-end flow and low back pressure highway cruising. It's a much heftier investment though. I hope to get there one day.

 

[Husker6.5]

Start scouring the salvage yards for a wrecked donor vehicle and go from there. Still cheaper/easier all the way around than trying to go dual compounds on a 6.5 and getting it all packaged under the hood. Just that the HE351VE is as scarce as hen's teeth to find used.

 

[Will L.]

Back when I was on the tool truck I almost got a 500 mile take off for free. Going to Towbin Dodge (the a&e chopper show dealership) they were constantly taking them off for flaming all the carbon in the turbo and the egr system. Some problem with the new technology back in 07 Iirc.
I'd have probably jacked it up trying to figure controlling it, but would have been fun trying. No clue how I'd have fit that thing in there, probably in place of the passanger seat- haha.

 

[Husker6.5]

I remember from the Diesel Power Readers Rides write up, one of them was experimenting with a Turbo Master-type spring mechanical controller set up and the other was using a boost or vaccuum actuated controller to varry the vanes and they were going to see which system worked better.

 

[n8in8or]

Start scouring the salvage yards for a wrecked donor vehicle and go from there. Still cheaper/easier all the way around than trying to go dual compounds on a 6.5 and getting it all packaged under the hood. Just that the HE351VE is as scarce as hen's teeth to find used.

Yeah my brother's shop just sent one back in for core that was still in pretty good shape. I told him to let me know next time they have one and I'll pay the core for it. The thing I'm mostly concerned about is the actuator, rebuilding a turbo isn't a big deal and I'd probably want to swap the compressor wheel anyway.

 

[n8in8or]

Back when I was on the tool truck I almost got a 500 mile take off for free. Going to Towbin Dodge (the a&e chopper show dealership) they were constantly taking them off for flaming all the carbon in the turbo and the egr system. Some problem with the new technology back in 07 Iirc.
I'd have probably jacked it up trying to figure controlling it, but would have been fun trying. No clue how I'd have fit that thing in there, probably in place of the passanger seat- haha.

Will, you're doing the remote turbo thing wrong. Or are you the only one doing it right????

 

[n8in8or]

So I finally started installing the wastegate controller. All I have left to do is connect the boost signal tube to the controller, mount the controller to the dash and then hook up the actuator hose to the solenoid. I should have it working tomorrow and then start playing with different boost settings.

 

[Will L.]

I went with factory gmxhit to fit. Shortly after my i did a trip to Utah and my interior got ruined in a break in. If I had known I would loose my interior doghouse cover I would have shoved an ATT there, somehow. I have to build a new interior now anyways. Can't get discontinued interior parts. Currently an ammo can bolted in behind my engine cover.

Nice Nate!

 

[Husker6.5]

That's why I'm wondering whatever happened with their experiment for controlling the variable vanes via mechanical means (either spring or vac/boost) instead of using the Dodge ECM controlled electro-servo control system. What were their results as far as low RPM spool-up/boost, high RPM boost/back pressure, drivability, MPG, reliability, etc?

 

[Husker6.5]

N8in8or, it's Tom Swift and his electric turbo! Wouldn't it just be easier to use the boost reference signal (hose) to the wastegate actuator and an adjustable tensioning spring to act against to set the wastegate opening boost pressure?

 

[n8in8or]

N8in8or, it's Tom Swift and his electric turbo! Wouldn't it just be easier to use the boost reference signal (hose) to the wastegate actuator and an adjustable tensioning spring to act against to set the wastegate opening boost pressure?

Easier? I don't think so because with the turn of the knob I will be able to adjust the boost pressure I want real-time while driving down the road. Now cheaper? Oh yes. However I was fortunate enough to have a friend of mine with this controller laying around and he gave it to me . My thought is that I will have a normal, high-ish level I'll use daily; a higher setting for when I'm really playing; and then a lower mode for towing. That's all subject to change once I have the whole combination together of course.

 

[n8in8or]

Or maybe easier isn't what I'm thinking....maybe I'm confusing convenience with easiness.

 

[Husker6.5]

And in event of electrical gremlins, then what? Zero boost and billowing clouds of black smoke like a giant squid fleeing a sperm whale?

 

[Will L.]

Sounds wussy. You should say- tactical smoke screen exfiltration.

 

[n8in8or]

And in event of electrical gremlins, then what? Zero boost and billowing clouds of black smoke like a giant squid fleeing a sperm whale?

That's a fair point, but all I have to do is pop the hood, unhook the hose from the solenoid on one side, unhook the hose from the compressor housing and then connect the hose from wastegate actuator to the compressor housing..... and then I'll have the exact same setup I have right now. So no, I won't have a high boost available, but I'll have the same 16psi I have right now, so I won't exactly be a squid.....maybe just a mosquito fogger. Right now I feel like the ability to quickly and easily try different boost settings outweighs the chance for electrical gremlins.....now that may change should I start having electrical gremlins, but at least by then I'll know what boost level I'll want to shoot for.

 

[Husker6.5]

Fair enough. I'm just having a little fun tugging on your chain a bit! Of course, your tune might change a bit the first time it fails at night in the middle of a blizzard with 50mph winds.

 

[Husker6.5]

Sounds wussy. You should say- tactical smoke screen exfiltration.

Or, I could just flip the smoke generator switch on my old M1A1 and inject raw JP-4 into the exhaust manifold and lay smoke, or I could call a mission into DIVARTY and have them lay a couple of dozen rounds of Willie Pete. Or one can just lose boost on their 6.5 and lay clouds of black smoke like a fleeing squid (the cephelopod, not the guys who look like Good Humor Icecream vendors and think they're soldiers )

 

[n8in8or]

Fair enough. I'm just having a little fun tugging on your chain a bit! Of course, your tune might change a bit the first time it fails at night in the middle of a blizzard with 50mph winds.

Yank away!! By the way....I won't have a tune to change, because I'll be going to the mechanical DB2 soon (see what I did there?? )