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Cooper Discoverer A/T 3

Cool. I did not know that Mike.

Tanner, the only bad part about running two different tires is when you rotate them. Your kind of handcuffed.
 
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In fleet pickups (mostly city/hwy- no off-road). We would only see 4% gain in tire life at best. Usually 1 or 2% was normal.

Doing actual tread pattern tests at new, and 50% useage proved far more important in tire life. Check the pressure monthly. If you are running same front and rear tires and your fronts don't wear the same as your rears, something is wrong. Corner wear on steer tires is from fast hard turns only.
 
btfarm said:
I'm considering them but it's really tough to convince myself not to go with BFGS again. I need to make the decision very soon.
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I'll try: $1200 for a set of BFGs and no treadware warranty. I have never gone more than 35K miles on a set of BFGs on my Suburban and it's not my driving as evidenced by nearly 80K miles on a set of Michelin Primacy on my Honda Accord.
 
Can't say as I agree with the only "1-4% difference when not rotating...mainly because these trucks are used differently than the fleet use you may commonly see...

My trucks see most of it's life hooked to a heavy trailer and I find if rotation isn't done, you can visually see a major difference in tread depth...left un rotated I could almost go through a second set of rears before the fronts need replacing...

Now, I'm not saying some of that wear doesn't come from the times the trailer is disconnected and she needs to stretch her legs...
 
My shoulders wear off on the rears before the center so I figure rotating is pointless. I do go through rears quicker but I've only put 10 tires on my truck in 180k miles and my current rears are 50% fronts are 75% easily. 1 tire failed from impact puncture, its match is still in my barn.
 
I am a firm believer of tire rotation. I rotate religiously every 6 months. I got 81,500 miles on my last set. (General Grabber HTS)
 
I rotate my tires. Yes the rears wear faster when towing. I have a set of TreadWright Wardens on my Suburban right now. One failed from case separation at 10K miles and they would not warranty it. They said it must have been due to a nail or something. When we pulled the tire off the rim it was still fully inflated and there was no prior damage. It was simply bad BFG KO E rated casing. I've had a number of BFG casing failures before. Same deal, case or belt gives way and you get a huge bump in the tire which eventually fails.

The remaining 3 TreadWrights have 18K miles on them and they will be lucky if they see 25K miles. I'm covering the 4th with some BFGs my son took off after he bought a set of Cooper AT3s. The Coopers are a much better tire and they have a warranty. Maybe another year and I'll be done with the BFG for good.

I've run the BFGs on a '73 Bronco and now the '99 Suburban. Never got more than 40K miles on the Bronco. Always had a casing separation failure, uusally after taking a nail. They don't do well with repairs. They must have good advertising to generate the fans they have, because they truly are a POS product.
 
I rotate my wife's tires religiously and all my non heavy tow trucks (don't own one at the moment) but for the way I load my lbz rotating is pointless. On my 93 drw it might pay but so far I have no proof lol
 
A lot of people,myself included run the bfg at-ko's. Yeah not for good mileage, Or high mile wearing. But they so amazing off road in this area.

Pepperidge, I think you hot the nail on the head. Almost no towing was done in the fleets where we ran the trucks. That makes a lot of sense.

On my hummer the best tires I ran are nla, the wrangler mt's have never lived long enough to wear out, I tend to kill them first. Idk if I hit 10,000 miles out of 1 yet.
 
tanman_2006 said:
My shoulders wear off on the rears before the center so I figure rotating is pointless. I do go through rears quicker but I've only put 10 tires on my truck in 180k miles and my current rears are 50% fronts are 75% easily. 1 tire failed from impact puncture, its match is still in my barn.
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This sounds like the tires are underpressured for the weight they're carrying. Have you matched the weight with the pressure?
 
I agree but I've only been brave enough to run 5psi over max. All of my trucks run over loaded, its almost a normal problem for me.
 
My 285/75's only lasted 30k tops (good yr Kevlar). These last 60k but but cost 50% more, I like the looks and ride better so its worth the trade for me.

My 94 never got more than 25k on 245's
 
tanman_2006 said:
My 285/75's only lasted 30k tops (good yr Kevlar). These last 60k but but cost 50% more, I like the looks and ride better so its worth the trade for me.

My 94 never got more than 25k on 245's
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Wow Tanner. What are you doing, burnouts? LOL. Just kidding.

What kind of towing are you doing? Is it all on pavement or on dirt farm grounds? You should be getting more miles than that on a set of tires.
 
I want a 4x4 MD but a 3500hd 6.5l wouldn't be terrible for jobs I can stay on the road to unload for, some jobs get pretty far off the beaten path.

A local guy has an 06 LBZ 5500 single cab 4x4 with air ride seat, suspended cab, air ride rear, air brake hook ups as well as electric brakes and it also has a 12ft bale bed. I about wreck every time I see it!
 
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