Walbro-where to buy?

[Acesneights1]

Raptor was 300$ but lifetime warranty. You'll never buy another one. You'll probably burn up a few Walbros in the trucks life so I think about even.Plus is comes with all the tubing to install it.

 

[DieselCash]

Raptor was 300$ but lifetime warranty. You'll never buy another one. You'll probably burn up a few Walbros in the trucks life so I think about even.Plus is comes with all the tubing to install it.

Who has tested this raptor on a 6.5TD?

Is it not going to cause any damage or cause any seals to go out?

If I was you I would not be pushing a product so hard if you have not tested it yourself. Our had a good friend you witnessed, testing it.

If someone does purchase this item from your pushing and it breaks their truck it will not be a good day, for you and them.

 

[Acesneights1]

I am not pushing anything. Also I said more than once it adjustable. Also the Raptor/Airdog is relay controlled so it would probably eliminate the OPS burnout problem but hey what do I know right ?

 

[Acesneights1]

BTW when you have your calculator out figuring out that the 95$ walbro is cheaper add in a few OPS swtiches or better yet lets fix it right..
Kennedy Diesel relay system harness to fix ops problem=145$+SHIPPING
Walbro= 95$ +SHIPPING
Misc fittings=10-15$
That's about 300$ for a LP with not much of a warranty IIRC.
Raptor 389$ free shipping IIRC was what I paid from a DTR SITE VENDOR. Came with 1/2 pushlok hoses and fittings from Tank to IP. Uses Relay system and connects directly to Batt with heavy Gauge wire as it should be.
Of course Kennedy sells a Duramx LP for 220$ +SHIPPING for the 6.5 but that one is not adjustable. Guess he is blowing up IP's too.
Hmm...
http://www.dieseltowingresource.com/showpost.php?p=146636&postcount=22

 

[matuva]

Kenny, do you know if the Raptor or Airdog are "flow on fail pumps" ?

 

[Acesneights1]

To my knowledge , no but the generally don't fail. If it fials on a Cummins it takes the IP with it so they make them pretty reliable.Plus as discussed flow on fail may not be the best thing in the world. I drove my Tahoe for who's knows how long with wire broken. I didn't realize it until I went to change the Fuel Filter. I am sure I'm not the only one that has happended to. Long term without LP could possibly be detrimental to IP. Of course fuel pressure gauge is always the best thing to have. I never had one in my GM's. I do now and highly recommend it. I actually shot an email to Pureflow last night asking about using it on a 6.5. I am awaiting thier response. I only discovered this pump setup after buying the Cummins and after looking over it's pluses thought it would have been a good thing for the GM if no other reason just eliminating the OPS problem while keeping the OPS in service. I had hardwired my LP but was never comfortable about the safety issues that raised. Ideally using something like this but leaving it hooked to OPS is good but what's even better IMHO would be to supply the B+ side of the OPS with keyed power rather than ECM. So it would be keyed, OPS protected and relay driven. Just a theory. Remember it's not just the pressure. That is adjustable, It's the flowrate. It cranks.

 

[Acesneights1]

OK Here was Toby from Pureflows reply to my email. He also attached the install manuals FOR THE 6.5 Application. I don't know if I can post them . they may be too large. Mods, if having his contact info is in appropriate then edit as necissary but several vendors on this site sell Airdog so I think it's OK. Airdog does not sell direct to consumer. The manuals he attached are to large for me to uplaod according to site rules unless a mod wants to do it.

Ken,

Thank you for your inquiry and support of our product line.

Attached are the installation manuals for each of the product lines for 6.5 engine. The advantages of mounting an AD, and AD II, a Raptor, or a FP II on a diesel engine remain the constant across the board for the engines. All four products provide a constant flow of pressurized fuel to the engine; hence, preventing cavitation. The AD, AD II, and FP II remove the air from the fuel; hence, improving performance and fuel economy. Note: The FP II is for class 8 trucks and as such does not have a manual attached,

Any 'Over Kill' could be purchasing a larger GPM unit than will be required for the engine. Both the Raptor and AD II circulate unused fuel within the pump assembly until such time that is required by the engine. The AD will send back to the tank any fuel the engine does not require.

The AD II DF-165 / DF-200 and the Raptor RP-100 / RP-150 offer the best selections for this application since they have adjustable pressure regulators and can be fine tuned to the specific engine maximizing any fuel related performance.

Once you have had an opportunity to review the attachments, please do not hesitate to contact us either at one of the phone numbers provided below or via email if we can answer any of your questions or concerns.

Thank you once again for your inquiry and support of our product line.

I pray you have an excellent day.

Toby A. Parks
PureFlow Technologies, Inc.
Quality Assurance Manager / Technician
Tech Cell Ph No (573) 694-8833
Sales Office Ph No (877) 463-7363 or (573) 635-0555
Fax No (573) 635-0778
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: 6.5 diesl application


Hi,
I was looking for info on your products. I recently purchased a Raptor 100 for my '02 Dodge Cummins . I like it but my question is I play around with 6.5 GM diesels both with Mech inj DB2 and elect DS4 Standyne injection pumps. Can they handle either the airdog or Raptor and is there any advantage to running them. I basically mean by that would using any of your products be "overkill" on one of those engines ?
Whether you guys know it or not there is quite alot of 6.5 enthusiasts out there and some are running some HP.
Thanks

Ken

 

[Acesneights1]

BTW the manuals he sent me are specif to the 6.5. I wish I could post them somehow. But as I suspected not only is this the best way to supply fuel but it also solves the OPS problem. Kinda like having Kennedys harness built in.

 

[Pepperidge]

Kenny, can you email me the manuals?

I'll see if I can post them...

PM sent with address

 

[Acesneights1]

ON the way.
Thanks.Of course I just got them myself and have not read them but I am sure they are good stuff.

 

[Pepperidge]

Here are the PDF's Kenny spoke of...

this should provide some good information...

Thanks Kenny!

on edit: Don't know why the third one didn't show up as a thumbnail to click on...but it is valid and works...

 

[Acesneights1]

Very Nice. Thanks. as you can see it solves the OPS problem as well buy connecting directly to the battery and using the OPS for activation(much lower draw). Also if you go airdog(over the Raptor) you have constant filtration as from what I see it's always circulationg the fuel. This should put to rest whether it will work with a 6.5 but more importantly what I see is you could buy lnger lenths of push lock hose from a Parker store and replace the rotten fuel lines most of us have.

 

[matuva]

Where do you find the raptor at $300.00 ?
I had a search at Fleabay, but the cheapest is $399.00

 

[DieselCash]

OK Here was Toby from Pureflows reply to my email. He also attached the install manuals FOR THE 6.5 Application. I don't know if I can post them . they may be too large. Mods, if having his contact info is in appropriate then edit as necissary but several vendors on this site sell Airdog so I think it's OK. Airdog does not sell direct to consumer. The manuals he attached are to large for me to uplaod according to site rules unless a mod wants to do it.

Ken,

Thank you for your inquiry and support of our product line.

Attached are the installation manuals for each of the product lines for 6.5 engine. The advantages of mounting an AD, and AD II, a Raptor, or a FP II on a diesel engine remain the constant across the board for the engines. All four products provide a constant flow of pressurized fuel to the engine; hence, preventing cavitation. The AD, AD II, and FP II remove the air from the fuel; hence, improving performance and fuel economy. Note: The FP II is for class 8 trucks and as such does not have a manual attached,

Any 'Over Kill' could be purchasing a larger GPM unit than will be required for the engine. Both the Raptor and AD II circulate unused fuel within the pump assembly until such time that is required by the engine. The AD will send back to the tank any fuel the engine does not require.

The AD II DF-165 / DF-200 and the Raptor RP-100 / RP-150 offer the best selections for this application since they have adjustable pressure regulators and can be fine tuned to the specific engine maximizing any fuel related performance.

Once you have had an opportunity to review the attachments, please do not hesitate to contact us either at one of the phone numbers provided below or via email if we can answer any of your questions or concerns.

Thank you once again for your inquiry and support of our product line.

I pray you have an excellent day.

Toby A. Parks
PureFlow Technologies, Inc.
Quality Assurance Manager / Technician
Tech Cell Ph No (573) 694-8833
Sales Office Ph No (877) 463-7363 or (573) 635-0555
Fax No (573) 635-0778
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: 6.5 diesl application


Hi,
I was looking for info on your products. I recently purchased a Raptor 100 for my '02 Dodge Cummins . I like it but my question is I play around with 6.5 GM diesels both with Mech inj DB2 and elect DS4 Standyne injection pumps. Can they handle either the airdog or Raptor and is there any advantage to running them. I basically mean by that would using any of your products be "overkill" on one of those engines ?
Whether you guys know it or not there is quite alot of 6.5 enthusiasts out there and some are running some HP.
Thanks

Ken

Ace,

This is what I am looking for! Great job digging this up. :thumbsup:

You were correct about this from the start.

See if I doubt you again.:nonod:

Thanks,

 

[Acesneights1]

 

[Acesneights1]

Where do you find the raptor at $300.00 ?
I had a search at Fleabay, but the cheapest is $399.00

My error. I thought I edited it. I paid 389.00 shipping inlcuded from Upstate Diesel. He is a site vendor. It's a nice pump. Pretty quiet and when I installed my FP gauge and went to purge the line to the sending unit fuel flew out of it. Dodge VP44 is a pretty tempormental IP and if it starves for fuel even a little bit it's toast to the tune of about 1500$ so that is why I chose this one.

 

[HighSierra86]

Kenny,

Just got back on my computer after not having one for a few days...

But just wanted to say thanks for all the info, a good read...and another idea for the six fives. As im sure you and everyone else knows, new products for the 6.5's are very few and far between, leaving it up to our imagination for upgrades.

This is partially the reason I love tinkering with these trucks. Making more power is not as easy as plug-and-play, and it takes some ingenuity to come up with new ideas.

So im all for hearing about new ideas, i think it's what keeps the DTR crew above the others. Thanks again

Nick

 

[Rhinopkc]

Something I've never seen brought up: If you're worried about flow on fail, why not plumb around pump and put a check valve in? You could even use the stock LP as the check valve, the you would have a limp home pump. Especially for dodge guys who could kill pump with lp fail.

 

[HighSierra86]

Something I've never seen brought up: If you're worried about flow on fail, why not plumb around pump and put a check valve in? You could even use the stock LP as the check valve, the you would have a limp home pump. Especially for dodge guys who could kill pump with lp fail.

I believe this is what Turbine doc has done, using the stock LP as well

 

[Matt Bachand]

Very nice aces... I see what you mean now. A complete overhaul.... .. Not bad at all, price wise and everything else for what you get.