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Good old torlon check balls. They are nice to the seperator plate and all, but do wear out over time.
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The Stealth BOMB'r is under the knife
- Thread starter Cumminalong
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Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Well, good thing I broke the trans down.
The clutch packs and band were SMOKED. I had 2 sets of steels and frictions that were welded together and the band was nicely burned.
Mmmmmm.....check out this little bit of sexyiness.
The clutch packs and band were SMOKED. I had 2 sets of steels and frictions that were welded together and the band was nicely burned.
Mmmmmm.....check out this little bit of sexyiness.
3500GMC
What T F, over
Just in time, at least your fluid is still RED. Any way to stack up more frictions/steels? Do anybody offer a carbon band?
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Already in the works.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Valve body is all set. Just waiting on some trans parts to get here now.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Today was "clean the trans and get it ready for assembly" day.
Started cleaning everything up and decided to repaint the case.
I think I found the perfect color and texture for it. Black and Hammered!
All the parts from here are the over drive sections.....
Started cleaning everything up and decided to repaint the case.
I think I found the perfect color and texture for it. Black and Hammered!
All the parts from here are the over drive sections.....
Ozzie
Snow looming...run!!
Is that your truck sitting back there? I think I saw a tear coming out of his eye...
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Yeeeeeeah, that's the BOMB'r.
It wasn't a tear though, it's simply snearing at the transmission.....taunting it.....letting it know that it has evil intentions for it when it goes back in.....just reminding it that it's comfy little life getting massaged in the shop is going to come to an abrupt halt when my right foot unleashes the demons within.
Die Transmission! DIE!
:reddevil:
Okay, I'm kidding. Really, I am. Don't die, don't die.....good transmission.
:rof:
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Only got a little work done today; had two other trucks to get done.
Installed the new 2.5 apply lever, the new 2nd servo servo and the OD piston. That's about all I got done.
Here's the 2.5 that Jeff gave me to go with the VB vs the 5.0 that was in there. The 5.0 would have put too much pressure on the case and likely broke it.
Here's the new Super 2nd Servo. Much better sealing and higher pressure spring.
Here's the new accumulator. Teflon seals vs the steel rings on the one that was in there.
Started putting in the OD piston. The transparency film is used to get the lip seals in without damaging them.
Installed the new 2.5 apply lever, the new 2nd servo servo and the OD piston. That's about all I got done.
Here's the 2.5 that Jeff gave me to go with the VB vs the 5.0 that was in there. The 5.0 would have put too much pressure on the case and likely broke it.
Here's the new Super 2nd Servo. Much better sealing and higher pressure spring.
Here's the new accumulator. Teflon seals vs the steel rings on the one that was in there.
Started putting in the OD piston. The transparency film is used to get the lip seals in without damaging them.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Okay, this SOB is as ready to go as I can get it until the new clutch disks get here on Monday.
Here's the sub-assemblies going together.....
Checking the tolerances.....
Cleaning the burns off the reaction plates.....
Here is why I can't put it together. Look at the teeth on the clutch disks.....
SunCoast TC that was rebuilt at Garmon's.....
Here's the old stuff that came out.....
All set and ready to go back together on Monday.....
Here's the sub-assemblies going together.....
Checking the tolerances.....
Cleaning the burns off the reaction plates.....
Here is why I can't put it together. Look at the teeth on the clutch disks.....
SunCoast TC that was rebuilt at Garmon's.....
Here's the old stuff that came out.....
All set and ready to go back together on Monday.....
83GMCK2500
Active Member
Looking pretty schnazzy. You're going to have to be more clear on what is wrong with the teeth on your clutch discs...there is at least one person avidly following this that has no idea what to look for. :skep: 
btfarm
America First!
Make that at least 2...You're going to have to be more clear on what is wrong with the teeth on your clutch discs...there is at least one person avidly following this that has no idea what to look for. :skep:
NVW
Well-Known Member
Looks like the one in the foreground has larger teeth.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Looking pretty schnazzy. You're going to have to be more clear on what is wrong with the teeth on your clutch discs...there is at least one person avidly following this that has no idea what to look for. :skep:
Look at the inside of the two clutch discs.
The one on the left is one that came out. The teeth are a fine pattern to engage the sun gear on the intermediate shaft.
The one on the right, while it's the same overall diameter, uses a course pattern. These clutches are meant for the low / reverse drum (the ones that burned up).
It's like trying the thread a 3/8 - 16 bolt into a 3/8 - 24 hole. The size is correct, but thread pitch is wrong.
The package of clutch frictions that was in the rebuild had the correct NUMBER of clutches, but there were 4 extra frictions for the low / reverse drum and none for the rear drum.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Forgot to put these pics in yesterday.....had them on the laptop.
Here is the stock vs billet output shaft. Notice how much smaller the shoulder is and how much the diameter is reduced at the base of the splines on the stock piece.....
Here are the internals of the OD section during reassembly. You do need a press, or at least a bottle jack, to disassemble and reassemble this part, as the spring weight on this piece is a little over 800 lbs.
This is one of the other parts that causes problems and is usually what causes poor 3 - 4 shifts. This is the wave spring in the OD section. I picked it up to put it back in and it fell apart in my hand. This is usually the snap ring that you find pieces of in the pan.
Here is the stock vs billet output shaft. Notice how much smaller the shoulder is and how much the diameter is reduced at the base of the splines on the stock piece.....
Here are the internals of the OD section during reassembly. You do need a press, or at least a bottle jack, to disassemble and reassemble this part, as the spring weight on this piece is a little over 800 lbs.
This is one of the other parts that causes problems and is usually what causes poor 3 - 4 shifts. This is the wave spring in the OD section. I picked it up to put it back in and it fell apart in my hand. This is usually the snap ring that you find pieces of in the pan.
3500GMC
What T F, over
THAT woulda caused a mess.
Any way to bump up the line pressure this time around?
Any way to bump up the line pressure this time around?
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Already done.
Garmon set the VB up as a high pressure unit.
Instead of running at 95 psi, it's going to run at 195 psi.
That's one of the reasons I swapped the apply lever on the front band. It had a 5.0 lever and using it with the new VB would have broken the case. The apply lever in it now is a 2.5.
With the power the truck has, this setup should bark the tires in 4wd up through 3rd gear.
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
Okay, got some more work done on the trans today.
As soon as the clutches get here tomorrow, it'll be ready to go in.
OD section in the trans mount.....
Main case attached to the OD section.....
Intermediate shaft and planetary gear set installed.....
Rear drum and input shaft installed.....
Rear band adjusted.....
Front drum and band adjusted.....
As soon as the clutches get here tomorrow, it'll be ready to go in.
OD section in the trans mount.....
Main case attached to the OD section.....
Intermediate shaft and planetary gear set installed.....
Rear drum and input shaft installed.....
Rear band adjusted.....
Front drum and band adjusted.....
Cumminalong
Doghouse Diesel Performance
So, some how overnight shipping turns into 4 days and I still don't have my clutches......there showing as getting delivered tomorrow.
Which, like when I had the motor out of the truck turns into time to do things that I otherwise wouldn't have.
Decided I was sick of looking at the rusty azz drive shafts.....
Which, like when I had the motor out of the truck turns into time to do things that I otherwise wouldn't have.
Decided I was sick of looking at the rusty azz drive shafts.....
searstractorfan
New Member
Haha would that be Kentucky chrome on them shafts or a nice sharp looking silver? Will that spray on under coat stuff throw the shafts out of balance? I think they'd looke pretty nice painted like that(give it that rough look but be durable)....id like to do that on my truck next time i got the shaft out...