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So, exactly who makes the ATT?

Guys all these things are possible, just need a design drawing and we can get a quote. The manufacturing possibilities are amazing. A p400 block would be possible but a bolt on addition to our block would be easier, If anyone has a drawing or print I may be able to get a quote, Chinese cast iron is second to none, to bad we closed most of our foundries.
 
Slim Shady said:
Guys all these things are possible, just need a design drawing and we can get a quote. The manufacturing possibilities are amazing. A p400 block would be possible but a bolt on addition to our block would be easier, If anyone has a drawing or print I may be able to get a quote, Chinese cast iron is second to none, to bad we closed most of our foundries.
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Hmmm, someone had a CAD drawing of a P400 style block girdle.

"Chevyinlinesix" wasn't it?

*found it: http://www.thetruckstop.us/forum/showpost.php?p=215430&postcount=8

You might be able to "partner up" with him and get a production run going.........I'd sure as heck be interested as long as the price wasn't foolish. I'd take the wife's bitc***g, whip out the VISA and drop that cash tomorrow for a P400 style girdle. Heck, I'd buy 2 if the price was right. One for a "runner" and one for a build....

Even if we got one "raw" so it could be align bored with your own block (well, it has to be align bored actually). There would probably also be a bit more "end user machining" required to match it to it's intended block (ie: cap registers, thrust face matching, etc). Chuck in some main studs, pan studs, a custom pan and pickup and you'd have on heck of an "upgrade" and a great foundation to build some power on.

Now that I think of it, if the girdle was "oversized" enough a good block (no cracks) could be planed on the bottom to remove the cap registers and then align bored.

But, maybe a straight up replacement might sell better.

Heck, start a poll thread for a cast girdle and see how many will sign up for such a unit! I can tell you who would be at #1 on that wish list.......;)

Either way, it would sure beat paying 10 grand for a P400...
 
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Just like everywhere else, itt has been my experience that you have to know the right people in China for things to go smoothly.

I'd like to see a cast upper manifold that looks factory and has a smooth transition from the ATT to the lower intake manifold. It should look good on its own or allow the use of the plastic engine cover if so inclined.
 
SuperTuscan said:
Just like everywhere else, itt has been my experience that you have to know the right people in China for things to go smoothly.

I'd like to see a cast upper manifold that looks factory and has a smooth transition from the ATT to the lower intake manifold. It should look good on its own or allow the use of the plastic engine cover if so inclined.
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and have fittings for wmi and guages?
 
Well and maybe not decrease to that tiny inlet area it does now. The rectangular area of the opening from the 90 degree bend into the intake is smaller than the circular area on the rest of it. Thats why I bought the 6.2 type that fits the 6.5, because it has a 3" inlet it looks like and I can use larger pipe then from the turbo.
 
Or, go with a equal length runner manifold similar to the Ford design. Who knows what the runner length should be or how it would work with an IDI diesel, but if you are going to do it might as well go large. I wonder if you could tune the runner length to work with the ATT, maybe provide a little more low end until the turbo picks up. You would be supplying an engineered kit at that point.

I also read an article that Eldebrock is offering prototyping and small scale casting runs at their state of the art facility. I'm sure a motivated individual could go from idea to functioning prototype in no time at all using their services. The question is if there is a market for it. You know, cost vs gains, etc...
 
These things are all possible, I have a good relationship with my manufacturer, and I am sure they would connect me with a proper company.

One big problem with partnerships is dollars. When dealing with overseas companies you really must trust your supplier. You send money by wire transfer and then wait for confirmation of your order, then shipping customs paperwork, customs duties and so on before you even see something for your money, If you get junk then how do you recover your money? YOU DON'T.

We would need a design spec drawing, then need material specs and machining specs, tolerances or we pay for all that to be done. I like the idea of a bolt on main girdle. Need an oil pan to go with it. It is an idea, we have enough of the rite people here to do it.
 
buddy said:
Well and maybe not decrease to that tiny inlet area it does now. The rectangular area of the opening from the 90 degree bend into the intake is smaller than the circular area on the rest of it. Thats why I bought the 6.2 type that fits the 6.5, because it has a 3" inlet it looks like and I can use larger pipe then from the turbo.
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Buddy I run a 2.5 inch to 3. inch adapter off of the turbo and then run three inch pipe to a plate with a three inch opening. The air temp sensor is in the three inch pipe between the two.
 
Slim Shady said:
Buddy I run a 2.5 inch to 3. inch adapter off of the turbo and then run three inch pipe to a plate with a three inch opening. The air temp sensor is in the three inch pipe between the two.
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That was exactly my plan until I just bought that Peninsular intake. The plate with a 3" stub on it might work better though so I only need to 45 degree it vice 90 degrees.
 
Slim Shady said:
We would need a design spec drawing, then need material specs and machining specs, tolerances or we pay for all that to be done. I like the idea of a bolt on main girdle. Need an oil pan to go with it. It is an idea, we have enough of the rite people here to do it.
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Hell, I'll make my own pan!

Just get me a girdle in raw or finished form!

Gawd, I never thought I'd be saying "I need a girdle" at 45 years old.....

):h
 
I'd like to see pics of what you guys are talking about. All I can envision is a plastic flexible pipe that I've seen on a couple installs.
 
great white said:
Hell, I'll make my own pan!

Just get me a girdle in raw or finished form!

Gawd, I never thought I'd be saying "I need a girdle" at 45 years old.....

):h
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I can ask, I just need a drawing, with a material spec, (Cast iron would be easiest) I think.
 
SuperTuscan said:
I'd like to see pics of what you guys are talking about. All I can envision is a plastic flexible pipe that I've seen on a couple installs.
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Pics of the intake? I can take pictures of mine when I get the truck back together. I thought I may offer the intake package as an upgrade to the factory intake. I have a place that will make them for me. Just have not done enough testing yet.
 
I would be very interested in a bolt on main girdle if the price was within reason. I just dont know for your sake if there is enough of a market for the product. But it really is nice seeing new inovations being marketed for these trucks.
 
I need to see a drawing, because I cant figure out what you smart people are talking about. When I hear girdle I think bottom end, but then your talking about intakes. I'd buy a performance intake if I believed it was a power adder. I've put aluminum performance intakes on bbc and sbc motors (who hasn't?) with no other changes and felt a big improvement. But I wonder, is there really much to be gained when the turbo is forcing induction anyway?

I still want bolt-on aluminum (or not) roller rocker performer heads, direct injection, common rail ported to three times the size of stock. With fittings for nitrous or propane.
I bet some real heads would make a ginormous difference. It's always been my understanding that heads are where the powers made.

Be a lot of tubular fabrication, but maybe a multiple turbo setup. Remove the intake and put one small turbo on each cylinder. The crossover would go into an eight-legged spider made of headerpipe to feed each individual turbo. What would this accomplish, you ask? Probably nothing, but it would be a lot of work and would look cool. Too many moving parts, and still couldn't push the engine beyond what it is capable of withstanding. I'm just goofing around here. But I do know people who build/fabricate ridiculous things no matter how much they cost and regardless of how useless it turns out. I know a guy with a multi-engine tractor pulling background, who put a 2200hp alcohol hemi in the back of a 2wd c10 pickup, mated to a 400hp 454. On paper, capable of 203 mph. Of course the hemi ate the 454, so now he's putting in a 4.3 v6, because it is only there to get the truck rolling prior to hemi engagement, and he thinks the light v6 will survive the rpms better.
 
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