How do you all get 6.2s to 300K miles

[jrsavoie]

Soy is good base. Now ya have to find out about added ethanol or methanol. Afaik there is a requirement for a label on the pump you fill up at that will say “oxygenated X %”. Usually 5% to 10%. But idk that all states require the labeling to notify.

All ours says is between 5 and 20% bio

 

[MrMarty51]

Our pumps has no bio rating.
Maybe I should be calling the refineries and find out.

 

[jrsavoie]

Our pumps has no bio rating.
Maybe I should be calling the refineries and find out.

I think if it Bhaskar bio added, it has to have a sticker.

Maybe you don't have bio added in your area.

 

[dbrannon79]

iirc it's a federal mandate that ethanol or bio stickers are supposed to be present on pumps along with measurement calibration stickers. I know all the pumps here in Texas that I have seen all have those stickers. our state also promotes folks calling in the scales and measurements hotline if one thinks the pump isn't reading or dispensing correctly.

 

[jrsavoie]

iirc it's a federal mandate that ethanol or bio stickers are supposed to be present on pumps along with measurement calibration stickers. I know all the pumps here in Texas that I have seen all have those stickers. our state also promotes folks calling in the scales and measurements hotline if one thinks the pump isn't reading or dispensing correctly.

At the Clifton gas station. I put 6 gallons in 2 different 5 gallon plastic cans, 2 different times.

The cans have 5 gallon marks on them.

That's a busy station. They were selling a lot of air.
I wonder if anybody else noticed. I called and complained, but nothing came of it.

 

[dbrannon79]

WOW! I recall someone telling me that the procedure is when the station is notified, they are supposed to put that pump out of order and schedule them to come out for calibration. Idk if that is a state rule or federal, but new stickers with service dates should have been put on the pump when they do the inspection / calibration. nowadays a lot of these "hole in the wall" stations don't care and for them it's more profit in their pockets

 

[jrsavoie]

WOW! I recall someone telling me that the procedure is when the station is notified, they are supposed to put that pump out of order and schedule them to come out for calibration. Idk if that is a state rule or federal, but new stickers with service dates should have been put on the pump when they do the inspection / calibration. nowadays a lot of these "hole in the wall" stations don't care and for them it's more profit in their pockets

This is a busy station right off Interstate 57.

I wonder if that was the only pump like that. It's odd it happened twice.

It was at least a week or 2 apart. Maybe longer. I don't remember if it was the same pump. .

 

[Will L.]

All ours says is between 5 and 20% bio

Yeah- by listing the bio, they are avoiding listing the alcohol. There is a way to test it - but how they listed 5-20% is the variable, they can also have up to 20% alcohol.
So your fuel could at any time be holding 20% water.

 

[dbrannon79]

That's exactly how I cleaned the fuel tank out on my old chain saw the other day! I had left it out and it got water in the gas tank. dumped out the fuel, washed out with fresh fuel and then poured in some rubbing alcohol. swished that around and dumped. made the tank perfectly clean where before the water that had gotten in there had turned all the 2 cycle oil to milk curds.

you'd be surprised how much water a small amount of alcohol will hold!

 

[Will L.]

That's exactly how I cleaned the fuel tank out on my old chain saw the other day! I had left it out and it got water in the gas tank. dumped out the fuel, washed out with fresh fuel and then poured in some rubbing alcohol. swished that around and dumped. made the tank perfectly clean where before the water that had gotten in there had turned all the 2 cycle oil to milk curds.

you'd be surprised how much water a small amount of alcohol will hold!

To be scientifically accurate: you have to know the type of alcohol, the hydrocsrbon average weight of the specific fuel at the moment and the specific gravity of the bio stock.
But the generic measurement is: it’s own weight by volume & the reciprocal of the bio masses weight.
So basically the same amount of alcohol there is.

Imagine the manufacturer makes 1 gallon of fuel containing 25% alcohol.
It can suspend 1 quart of water.
So if the fuel station has leaky lids, and it’s a rainy day, you buy 25 gallons of “fuel”.
You actually get 20 gallons of fuel and 5 gallons of water.
Sounds insane right? But, ya know, physics and all.

Ask me again why I hate corn fuel.
Because 100% pure ethanol is now considered BIO fuel.
Why? Because the corn was a plant (live plant or animal = bio)
So our friend in Illinois can be getting 80% fuel & 20% ethanol delivered to the gas station, then that 20% absorbs 20% water. Poof! Do the math. He now gets 60% fuel, 20% alcohol & 20% water.
Science is fun!