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Fun with Ted, Todd, Bill and Paul…Resurrecting an Ultimate Rebuild.

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Oh, I'm not in BC any more.

Just a touch further away......Newfoundland......:rolleyes5:
That's my point, The military, in their wisdom, would send you all the way across the continent and back to the west coast. Not that it makes any sense, just go there for Queen and Country.
 
Paul, have not gotten the pictures yet . The internal scratches look odd be interesting to see how deep they are the face and radius should be polished surfaces. I dressed the leading edges of the turbine wheel before sending it back to Ted. It was done with a diamond file and then polished with a dremel buffing wheel they were shiny when it left here. I have a used compressor housing that I can send you. Just been so dam busy and a third friend (close) may be having the same problems as my other friends. Four people in less than 2 years. Enough to make you scream, all under 50.

You have my contact info let me know when to look for them.

Now I'm concerned on a couple of levels. The pictures were sent Sunday...have resent them today. I'll reduce them to 95% of original so outlook doesn't see them as 5 MB (which is why I sent them in separate emails) and try yet again to be certain.
Blades: What has been getting past my AFE and S&B set up to hit the blades? There's nothing on the GM-5!

The surface scratches on the inlet are pretty shallow. The one and a half inch etch was disconcerting but it didn't go all the way around. The inside of the compressor housing looked
like more of an anomaly rather than actual damage but it still looked out of place.

Sorry to hear about your friends, there's just no end to it.
 
I spiked on a TC Lock/Unlock in 3rd but averaged 160 hp & 317 tq with the spike helping a bunch. The machine they use, Dynojet WINEP7, is supposed to 'sense' tire size, rear end ratio etc. Not sure I understand that one but have to take their word for it. It also doesn't like TCC lock up so one has to adjust for that. I'll post the sheet after I get it scanned but here is the data.
Run Conditions: 100.7* Air Temp, 27.03in-Hg. 13% humidity. SAE 1.14

My first two runs 145.26 / 315.66 and 156.06 / 301.27 respectively were started at 45 mph and I 'fed' the throttle up to 3500 rpm. The last run I fed it to 55 and stabbed it. Truck accelerated slowly and hesitated at 75ish and spiked the run at 178.67 / 334.86. So, that 160 average is a bit high. Until the spike, it was paralleling the 2nd... 156. run.


I also have a big thanks to John for the great day, a wonderful time at his home afterwards talking trucks, rockets, guns, computers, $#%^&* computer programs that delet photos instead of copying them to disc, more truck talk etc. A real big thanks to him for his generosity and his wife's culinary talent as that was an awesome dinner. Hope to return the favor soon.
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It was good to have you guys here. Your welcome here anytime. The wife is always wanting to cook for people and she loved having you here just so she could cook for you. And just so you know, that was her crappy cooking. Yes, London Broil BBQ'd to purfection with all the trimmins was crappy for her.:rofl: Ah, I miss the days of being skinny.

You guys just needed a way to lock up the TCC. I have that POS Hyper Tech chip still in mine with the stock GM4 and the cheapy air filter with the 4" to 5" stacks and got 179.33/315.81 firts run to 3.25k rpm. The second was 191.47/331.80 @3.5k and 192.92/327.79 @3.5k rpm. Now if I can get a good chip in her I can get some better numbers.

Your going to have to get that motor in and back out for the October dyno day and see how she does.:thumbsup:

Oh and what was it about who's fail it is that your motor is still not in? Something about too many rocks and stinking up the cab with bangers and mash?
 
Since I have time on my hands and the valve covers were media blasted, the timing cover gacky, the Peninsular set up painted black...boring (sorry Ted), the exhaust manifolds looking...well...like manifolds with 20K on them and the lower intake, also painted black, needs TLC. So with time on my hands, I have decided to while away the hours with wire wheel equipped bench grinder, drill and variable speed dremmel...because I can. Its either this or build a patio....:eek:

So far, its looking pretty good.

Peninsular and Cummins upper intake after using a variable speed Dremel tool on those 'hard to reach places evident on earlier pictures posted.
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The single speed Dremel spins so fast the wire bristles exit the wheel at painfully high velocities:eek: and the wheels last much longer with the lower speeds. Hint: wear safety goggles and use tweezers to get the bristles out of your chin.

OEM Upper Intake.
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Timing cover. Still rough but this was after a good cleaning and only a few passes with the 8" wheel on the grinder.
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Still need to put the polishing wheels to work to even out the wire work as different wheels and speeds leave obvious differences in the surface.

No progress on the lower intake or exhaust manifolds yet. There's time.
 
So if you have so much time on your hands you do me up a upper lower and turbo if you want. Then again maybe not. :rof:

I've thought about making all my parts nice and smooth and having them anodized blue. Like your purple spacer but blue.:thumbsup:
 
I've thought about making all my parts nice and smooth and having them anodized blue. Like your purple spacer but blue.:thumbsup:

Would that make it a "Flying Purple Paveltolz Spacer" with a case of "Ain't No Time For The Moto Tool Blues"?

Actually, I would probably prefer building the patio over impaling myself with bits of wire wheel at 13,000 rpm, but of course I used to build decks, patios and three and four season rooms for a living!
 
So would it be safe to say, you've built more decks than you can fling a wire wheel at?

I've thrown a few hammers and a wrench or two at them, does that count? I have had the abrasive roll on a drum sander peel and come off at me at 3600 rpm a couple of times when hitting a hidden nail on a deck I was stripping and refinishing. That 80 grit garnet can do quite a job on CCA Southern White Pine, or a person's exposed arm, too.
 
As 635's parts are present and accounted for, that build has been going on with surprising speed. Surprising because one doesn't know when the work is going to be executed. He goes by the shop one day and the cam's in, then last week its more progress. Were it not for a couple of small parts, ok, 32 small parts, he'd be driving it. As it is, it will be in the truck and running down the road with a happy man behind the wheel by next weekend. One thing that delayed it just a bit was a double check of the main bearings to ensure they were in correctly. That has turned out to be an issue with the previous builder.
 
Meanwhile, the clean up work goes on.

The gentleman who did the machine work on the spacer offered me some shop time on his media blaster so after failing to remove the rust as well as the paint/coating/shell/whatever it is on the exhaust manifolds with the wire wheels on the bench grinder and drills I packed up and headed over. I need these things clean for the ceramic coatings and don't want to pay the extra $$ for them to blast them.
I didn't get a before picture but while they weren't anything like you'd find in New England after their winters, they did need some work and a lot of it wasn't coming off with tools at hand.
After several hours with the wheels, they were still rust colored and chunky. After a couple hours on the blaster they looked better but there was still a lot of paint to come up.
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Went back today to try to get those hard to reach spaces. I ended up pulling a lot of maint on the blaster but it allowed me to see better (glass frosted, vacuum filter clogged, etc.).
There's still some some minor spots of heat paint still on them in the deeper nooks and crannies but all in all, they look alright.
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Decided to go after the lower intake as well to get the coating off and a rough surface that will polish out easier rather than spend hours with the Dremel tool removing or attempting to remove the coating on it. I had tried paint stripper yesterday without success.
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I'll take it with me to Dugway UT tomorrow and if I've got some time to work on it while I'm gone, I'll start the polishing joy. The whole thing will look like this small section (only better) when I take it in for anodizing.
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Note to 635: I double taped all opening with duct tape to ensure the internal honing wasn't marred by the media blasting.

So, about five hours of time spent for results I figure would have taken several hours a day over a couple of weeks to achieve. I saved myself a lot of time and money on replacing Dremel wheel brushes. The valve covers were blasted by a friend of 635 so after I get back from a week out at Dugway Proving Grounds (exercise support) I will take those and the exhaust manifolds in for powder and ceramic coatings.
 
So, about five hours of time spent for results I figure would have taken several hours a day over a couple of weeks to achieve. I saved myself a lot of time and money on replacing Dremel wheel brushes. The valve covers were blasted by a friend of 635 so after I get back from a week out at Dugway Proving Grounds (exercise support) I will take those and the exhaust manifolds in for powder and ceramic coatings.

Exercise support at Dugway, you volunteered to be the goat? Yes, I watched that film in NBC Defense school, the old "Billygoat shuffle" film.
 
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