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EPA Study on Diesel Tuners

WarWagon said:
Don't forget CARB has made out of state business owners use DPF equipped trucks to run on CA roads.
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Did not know about that element, but it does not change the perspective.

Even with California requiring out-of-state commercial vehicles to install DPF hardware, this is still a static requirement that does not (easily) allow for other technological improvements. Put another way, even though this is an arguably cleaner alternative than what the non-California States allow, it still locks-down the emissions on a vehicle and requires it to remain the same over the vehicle's life.

As a part of the perspective that CARB stands in the way of progress is that there are other States which either leverage or mirror the CARB standards. So, by CARB making an expensive and onerous task out of showing that a change is beneficial, it has a wide net of effect for all the other States that follow-along with this philosophy.
 
GB has banned all new diesel and petrol powered vehicles starting in 2040...electric vehicles everywhere but at what cost?
Will electric power generation needed to power the vehicle charging infrastructure create more pollution/environmental problems than fossil fuels? The worlds civilian populations will be left to foot the bill for corporate pollution under the guise of defeating "global warming."

www.bbc.com

New diesel and petrol vehicles to be banned from 2040 in UK

Ministers have also unveiled a £255m fund to help councils introduce steps to deal with pollution
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IIRC, GB is also deploying a fleet of hydrogen powered transit buses. If they are able to replace all their ICE engines with fuel cells, then banning the ICE by 2040 is an easy target. Seem to recall that diesels were already banned from sections of downtown London.

Agree that the big question is whether the energy source powering this new fleet of electric vehicles is clean. If nothing else, an electric powertrain is currently around 40% more efficient than an equivalent ICE powertrain, so at a a a minimum the electric vehicle should cause less pollution even if its energy comes from the dirtiest of them all (ie: coal).
 
EPA just introduced a lawsuit against EZ lynk a few days ago over emissions tampering. I have a feeling over the next two years (last two years of the 4 year crack down on emissions tampering) we are going to see not only the big tuners get shut down but small repair shops are going to start getting a knock on the door. I know of a few already that got hit in PA. The EPA is closely watching the forums and FB accounts of tuners and shops. Keep it clean or keep your mouth shut.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/u...r-allegedly-selling-emissions-defeat-devices/
 
All aftermarket parts will probably soon require a CARB certification. If it alters emissions then it wont be allowed for sale in the US. If you want performance parts order them ASAP.
 
The batteries in EV's are far worse environmentally than diesel or gas when measured over their real lifespan when it comes to lithium ion type batts. They are not recycled or living to their rated lifespan. Tesla's new litium iron hasn't been tested for that yet and doesn't use as much rare earth elements (which theoretically should reduce the problem).

Cummins, Toyota, Hyndai (among others) are going the hydrogen fuel cell route. Realistically it's the cleanest and best option to go with since it is a cleaner energy source, readily available, and easily covers the range problem that electric has.
 
Biodiesel is going to be the way we keep internal combustion engines on the road and in the fields. I don't see an Electric tractor being useful to the farming community . But with biodiesel they can literally grow their out fuel. Gasoline will defiantly be phased out in the in the next 30 years.

I agree we have a huge challenge ahead with lithium ion battery recycling
 
red said:
The batteries in EV's are far worse environmentally than diesel or gas when measured over their real lifespan when it comes to lithium ion type batts. They are not recycled or living to their rated lifespan. Tesla's new litium iron hasn't been tested for that yet and doesn't use as much rare earth elements (which theoretically should reduce the problem).

Cummins, Toyota, Hyndai (among others) are going the hydrogen fuel cell route. Realistically it's the cleanest and best option to go with since it is a cleaner energy source, readily available, and easily covers the range problem that electric has.
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Problem with Hydrogen fuel cells is that they source the hydrogen from either gasoline or natural gas. You can source hydrogen from water through electrolysis, but it takes tons of electrical energy which is sourced from....natural gas, coal, etc. Of course we have no issues with Bitcoin miners consuming massive quantities of energy to run their servers to do their mining for a synthetic asset that stores the value of FOMO.
 
Rockabillyrat said:
EPA just introduced a lawsuit against EZ lynk a few days ago over emissions tampering. I have a feeling over the next two years (last two years of the 4 year crack down on emissions tampering) we are going to see not only the big tuners get shut down but small repair shops are going to start getting a knock on the door. I know of a few already that got hit in PA. The EPA is closely watching the forums and FB accounts of tuners and shops. Keep it clean or keep your mouth shut.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/u...r-allegedly-selling-emissions-defeat-devices/
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EZ Lynk will be interesting as they don't offer deletes, all it is is a server and flash device. It is the tuner that uploads the tunes that does the deleting with there own software. Kory specifically designed EZ Lynk so that it would not be doing the deletes.
 
THEFERMANATOR said:
EZ Lynk will be interesting as they don't offer deletes, all it is is a server and flash device. It is the tuner that uploads the tunes that does the deleting with there own software. Kory specifically designed EZ Lynk so that it would not be doing the deletes.
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Same goes for EFI live. Although they restricted full access to US customers years ago. So far they have avoided an EPA lawsuit.

I wonder if HP tuners is next. Because of what they are doing for the L5P
 
Big T said:
Problem with Hydrogen fuel cells is that they source the hydrogen from either gasoline or natural gas. You can source hydrogen from water through electrolysis, but it takes tons of electrical energy which is sourced from....natural gas, coal, etc. Of course we have no issues with Bitcoin miners consuming massive quantities of energy to run their servers to do their mining for a synthetic asset that stores the value of FOMO.
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Schlumberger and others are working on this issue.
 
Yep, I suspect some are on this web seeing what they can come u
red said:
The batteries in EV's are far worse environmentally than diesel or gas when measured over their real lifespan when it comes to lithium ion type batts. They are not recycled or living to their rated lifespan. Tesla's new litium iron hasn't been tested for that yet and doesn't use as much rare earth elements (which theoretically should reduce the problem).

Cummins, Toyota, Hyndai (among others) are going the hydrogen fuel cell route. Realistically it's the cleanest and best option to go with since it is a cleaner energy source, readily available, and easily covers the range problem that electric has.
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Or, a GIANT CAPACITOR to replace the lithium...:cool:
 
Actually, the easiest source for hydrogen for the fuel cells is water, not gasoline or NatGas. Simple electrolysis produces hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. The Germans have already built and is using a hydrogen fuel cell locomotive for passenger and freight service. Solar cells atop station platforms and snow sheds, combined with wind power, provides more than enough green, free electricity to provide ample amounts of hydrogen from water to power the engines. They have been in daily use for about four years now. Manufactured by the same company that made AMTRAK's new high-speed trains for the East Coast corridor, DC to Boston run.
 
Husker6.5 said:
Actually, the easiest source for hydrogen for the fuel cells is water, not gasoline or NatGas. Simple electrolysis produces hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. The Germans have already built and is using a hydrogen fuel cell locomotive for passenger and freight service. Solar cells atop station platforms and snow sheds, combined with wind power, provides more than enough green, free electricity to provide ample amounts of hydrogen from water to power the engines. They have been in daily use for about four years now. Manufactured by the same company that made AMTRAK's new high-speed trains for the East Coast corridor, DC to Boston run.
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Using Platinum electrodes as all other types commonly fail...lest we forget rocket engines using hydrogen fuel too.
 
Would not surprise me one bit to find out their wazoo train is a sham and has small gas engines tucked away making up the difference all the EE say it would require to work. Major multimillion dollar scams in the name of green is all over the place- not just auto manufacturers.

E=mc2 tells us everytime you alter from one type of energy to another you have an efficiency number (really a power loss number).
hydrogen production from electrolysis is always less than it’s input. If not- you would have a perpetual motion machine.

Maybe enough solar panels to recharge the batteries being eaten along the way that are making up the loss- but the guy that is the ex-head of the operation put out a video on YouTube (which keeps getting erased) and on bitchute explaining the problems and his announcement of it and a few other green initiatives that were failing was his demise. Not that be cared, he went back to work out of retirement to try to help fix the issues and told them best answer is scrap it all and quit putting good money after bad- but politics prevail.
 
It's NOT a sham, @Will L. . Seen it in operation during a presentation in Denver by the American representative of the German company that built them. They have several in operation the past four years now. It has almost the same power and range as the diesel-electric engine model it replaced, but with no emissions other than water vapor as its exhaust. And NO emissions in producing the hydrogen for the fuel cell, either.
 
Rockabillyrat said:
Same goes for EFI live. Although they restricted full access to US customers years ago. So far they have avoided an EPA lawsuit.

I wonder if HP tuners is next. Because of what they are doing for the L5P
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The difference is efilive and hptuners both have an interface to do tuning with, ez-lynk does not. It should be interesting as it is a foreign owned company that was specifically designed for this scenario. Ez-lynk does no more for tuning than buying an mdi knock off on the internet, they're both just tuning gateways, not actual tuners.
 
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