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Oil Bypass filter installation

Heath sells a kit now, His is $399, but also comes with a new oil fill tube with routing for the clean return.

Filters are 19.99.

As always, could probably do it for less/cheaper, but never easier than a Heath kit.

http://www.heathdiesel.com/T/Chevy-GM/Chevy-9601/Filtration/

For those who havn't watched the video yet, go watch it. It takes FILTERED Amsoil oil, black in color, and filters it out and it looks like brand new clean oil again.

If this is for real, then the test results should be overwhelmingly better I would think. Not to mention its apparently superiour Water separater. Is water really an issue in engine oil?
 
Hey Matt not sure what you are referring to in the videos I thought initially you meant oil run through an amsoil filter then filtered even better. All I am seeing is what looks to be a Fleetguard Full Flow. Are you saying 'Amsoil Oil' that is filtered?

I am installing for a bypass a regular $30.00 bypass filter head with thread adapter and using the Amsoil EaBP filter as a true bypass filter set up. 98.7 effy at 2 micron is in all reality is good enough for me. Just cannot justify spending 400 or more on the FS-2500 bypass, I do not doubt that it is the dogs bollocks just wanna spend my dollars on say a chip reflash etc.

Let see $50 for the amsoil element $25 for the FS2500 and say $300 extra for the FS2500 set up that means 12 filter changes to recoup my money thing is I was also planning on pushing changes on the Amsoil as far as I could, by putting the return from the filter to the Oil Fill pipe then I can watch the flow rate when running to establish when it needed changing.

Furthermore a while ago George from AV lubes over on the Place posted excellent particle count results using just the Amsoil EaO full flows only. He was suggesting that with this filter there was no longer any real need to run a bypass as well.

Oh crap I just found over on the place that he passed away, RIP George.

cheers
Nobby
 
I think they changed it for legal reasons since I first watched it6 months ago.

They put all the crap and let it run through AMSOIL's bypass system.(the competition), then after letting it run through AMSOIl's bypass setup, they switched it over to the FS-2500's setup, after it was hammered with a ton of other crap first (so it wasn't a fresh filter), and it took that same, black oil that was cycled through the amsoil product for a while, and the 2500 cleaned it right up so it visually looked brand new again, not black at all.

So, black is soot, soot is down to 2-3 microns, those small microns due the most damage, so they say anyhow. If in fact the FS-2500 will filter THAT MUCH BETTER than Amsoil. The Oil Analysis readings should CLEARLY show the better product, by far I would think. That is why I'm excited to see TD's results, as he has 2 test rigs very similar with similar overall mileage. One has Amsoil, one has FS-2500. If his FS-2500 sample is overwhelmingly better. Then I will spend the extra for the 2500.

BTW, 400 is Heath's price. He makes a nice kit, easy install, great help on the phone, website, etc... He has great overhead, especially if he has a shop out there in the real world :). I'm sure you could piece one of these kits together for alot less money than that. It's still relatively new, havn't heard much real result with em.

Then again, many a people have reached 2,3,4, even 500,000 without any additional oil filtering.

On the same note, there is someone out there with these oil-filters that have suffered internal engine damage.

Its a good way to spend money for PM if you have the money. If you don't, the money could probably be better spent.

I would like to note that I just had a peek into 4 cylinders when I had my head off, and 120k miles of no additional oil filters, my cylinders were so visually perfect looking that they were actually mesmerizing the spherical effect of perfect reflection. My oil turns black the instant it looks at my truck, not to mention even going in her :)
 
Yep I guess the proof of the pudding is with Tim right now, I guess we'll see.

Thing is engines were doing OK with say the regular 5 micron bypass filtration systems where do you draw the line on eeking out say that little bit extra few micron bit. To be honest Georges particle count results with the regular EaO full flow only seriously question the need to go to the extra hassle of installing a bypass.

cheers
Nobby
 
Matt Bachand said:
Heath sells a kit now, His is $399, but also comes with a new oil fill tube with routing for the clean return.

Filters are 19.99.

As always, could probably do it for less/cheaper, but never easier than a Heath kit.

http://www.heathdiesel.com/T/Chevy-GM/Chevy-9601/Filtration/

For those who havn't watched the video yet, go watch it. It takes FILTERED Amsoil oil, black in color, and filters it out and it looks like brand new clean oil again.

If this is for real, then the test results should be overwhelmingly better I would think. Not to mention its apparently superiour Water separater. Is water really an issue in engine oil?
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Even though I haven't lab sampled yet, & I haven't seen video if they are showing oil is clean as new, that isn't true, though the did say may take 2 or 3 oil/filter changes to "clean it up", but oil in my burb with the FS2500 now is black as oil in the truck with the amsoil bypass unit, and I put on a new oil cooler & stainless lines on the burb when I put on the FS 2500 so there was no residual oil in the cooler/lines to blacken the new oil put in with the change .
 
Turbine Doc said:
Even though I haven't lab sampled yet, & I haven't seen video if they are showing oil is clean as new, that isn't true, though the did say may take 2 or 3 oil/filter changes to "clean it up", but oil in my burb with the FS2500 now is black as oil in the truck with the amsoil bypass unit, and I put on a new oil cooler & stainless lines on the burb when I put on the FS 2500 so there was no residual oil in the cooler/lines to blacken the new oil put in with the change .
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Now is that a sample taken directly out of the fs-2500's clean side? Or just dipstick?
 
I do take the demo video somewhat with a grain of salt. We have no idea what particle size that black powder is and lets face it if it is anything less than say 20 micron then sure the Full Flow will not stop it but lets say its no less than 10 micron then sure the FS 2500 will give miraculous results.

Cheers
Nobby
 
The recent input has got me thinking. Since mine is what appears to be a full flow dual filter setup. I can't remember who posted the pic w/ a dual setup w/ a regulating spring that is a true bypass filter setup. I was wondering could a spring be added to one w/ a non existing spring? If not where could I get one of those housings w/ the spring?
 
Rodd said:
The recent input has got me thinking. Since mine is what appears to be a full flow dual filter setup. I can't remember who posted the pic w/ a dual setup w/ a regulating spring that is a true bypass filter setup. I was wondering could a spring be added to one w/ a non existing spring? If not where could I get one of those housings w/ the spring?
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If you have a machine shop anythings possible, but it would be a lot easier to buy the mount from an amsoil dealer. If you want just want to switch your mount I think the amsoil part is a bk209, probably need some adapters for your hoses. Since the amsoil units are 1"-16 you are limited in your choice of filters. Your other option is to add a single bypass filter and leave your dual full flow alone.
 
DILA said:
If you have a machine shop anythings possible, but it would be a lot easier to buy the mount from an amsoil dealer. If you want just want to switch your mount I think the amsoil part is a bk209, probably need some adapters for your hoses. Since the amsoil units are 1"-16 you are limited in your choice of filters. Your other option is to add a single bypass filter and leave your dual full flow alone.
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If it were your truck what would you do?
 
My opinion- And what I am going to do when my 6.5 truck is running again: I like the idea of a separate fine micron filter. T- fitting off the oil pressure sensor then 1/16 orifice in the inlet fitting on the filter mount , return line to oil pan.

I bought a Wix bypass filter mount #24755 for about $35 ordered from o reilly autoparts.

Wix has 3 different size filters that fit it and Baldwin and others also have filters that cross reference and fit . Wix 51050 filters for it are less than $10.00 each and rated at 10 microns which I think means 100% at 10 microns and they will remove some of the smaller stuff but at a lower percentage.

Anyway thats what im doin instead of a high dollar kit.
 
Rodd, i have a single bypass hooked up the same way as davo727 is going to do his, along with a permacool dual filter kit mounted on the frame.

davo727, you dont need to add a restricter to the filter head, the wix and baldwin bypass filters have the restriction built in.
 
Do not forget that you can also get a much larger single remote Wix bypass filter, head part # 24750 and the element is a 51749 9.5" deep 4.5" in dia.

I also have done the following take a Wix 24764 and get a 3/4"-16 x 1"-16 thread adapter from tmvtaylor and then you can use the Amsoil EaBP elements. Needs a restrictor in the head though as it is a full flow remote mount. Cheaper than buying an amsoil head.

Wix can be got at Napa just omit the first number for a Napa part# cross.
 
Amsoil has one with restrictor for less than $15 - BP80a.

It uses the EaBP filter 1"-16.

It is still available as part.
 
DILA said:
Rodd, i have a single bypass hooked up the same way as davo727 is going to do his, along with a permacool dual filter kit mounted on the frame.

davo727, you dont need to add a restricter to the filter head, the wix and baldwin bypass filters have the restriction built in.
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So if I am understanding you correctly I can buy the restricter built into the filter itself. Right? If that is the case what is the negative to using them w/ the housing I have (full flow)?
 
The restrictor is not in the filter. The restrictor is in the filrter housing. You could tap the big hole in your filter housing and install a plug with a 1/16 diameter hole.
 
jrsavoie said:
The restrictor is not in the filter. The restrictor is in the filrter housing. You could tap the big hole in your filter housing and install a plug with a 1/16 diameter hole.
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Dila said that the wix and baldwin have the restrictors build into the fiter.
 
If you go to the Wix website and pull up the specs on the 51050 or 51051 or 51320 you can also get a picture that you can enlarge:
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterloo.../www.wixconnect.com/images/filters/3720_1.gif
You can just make out only two small holes in the outer oil input ring at just past 21:00 and 03:00, so yes they are in effect restricted. Now I cannot comment on the 24755 base as I do not use them, I only install the larger 51749 filter which does indeed have a restriction in the head as well as only 2 holes in the element outer ring. Here is the catch though, the above initially listed elements are 5/8" x 18 thread and so you would have to use the 24755 base anyway to create the as Wix designed remote bypass setup.


cheers
Nobby
 
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