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Lift pump alternatives

Have you tried calling rock auto or pensicola diesel for specs on that hfp953 pump from Delphi? They both sell it but just an idea cuz I don't know what you've tried so far...
I'm interested in trying this one out as well so let us know what you find sir
 
anyone ever looked at this walbro:

Walbro fuel pump FRC-8-2, 8-11 PSI

FRC Model Features:
· Flow to 122 lph (32 gph)
· Pressure to >10 psig (68 kPa)
· Maximum current requirements 2.0 Amps
· Reverse Polarity Protected
· 12 or 24 Volts Available
· Self priming
· Dry lift to 120” (305 cm)
· Output Pressures Available: 4, 6, 8 & 10 PSIG
· Compatible with all commercially available pump grade gasoline, gasohol, diesel or bio diesel
· Continuous duty life (diesel fuel): >8000 hours
· Dry run: To (4) hours
· Overall height: 5.83” (148 mm)
· Overall diameter: 2.76” (~70 mm)
· Pump centerline to base of mounting bracket: 1.58” (40 mm)
· Mounting bracket width: 3.0” (76 mm)
· Weight: 1.78# (0.81 kg)
· 70 or 420 micron filter mesh size optional
· Internal check valve optional
· Dichromate or E-coat external finish option
· Sediment fuel bowl material option
· Operating temperature: -40F ~ +155F (-40 ~ +68C)
· U.S Coast Guard Test #16623-1 and #16623-2 Certified
· European Standards EN 61000-6-2-2001 and EN 6-3-2100 approved
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I've googled them and found prices similar to what the FRB5 was available for before the "price hike".

Maybe leroy can do a similar deal if this one is comparable?

?
 
crash2win64 said:
Have you tried calling rock auto or pensicola diesel for specs on that hfp953 pump from Delphi? They both sell it but just an idea cuz I don't know what you've tried so far...
I'm interested in trying this one out as well so let us know what you find sir
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All they could tell me at Pensacola was it is rated at 12-16 psi, no flow info, or any other info available....from them anyway.

Havent tried Rock Auto. Gonna see if I can find a Delphi supplier here locally, maybe they will help me out if I'm standing in front of them. Or try to catch the dodge parts guy at the counter during a slow moment to pick his brain.......

Finding the time is the hard part for the rest of this week.
 
crash2win64 said:
Sorry Turbine Doc I get a little bit frustrated with my phone here and just post up where I'm at is all.

Anyone know a good source for that Delphi hfp953 pump? I checked rock auto and it's like $180 or so new...
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NP generally we prefer business deals discussing price delivery be done at the vendors personal page or in PM saving main forum for tech talk, and limited pricing talk but generally pricing should be done at the vendors personal forum (their storefront/shop)
 
great white said:
anyone ever looked at this walbro:



I've googled them and found prices similar to what the FRB5 was available for before the "price hike".

Maybe leroy can do a similar deal if this one is comparable?

?
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Walbro fuel pump FRC-8-2, 8-11 PSI

FRC Model Features:
· Flow to 122 lph (32 gph)
· Pressure to >10 psig (68 kPa)

For me :nono::D too low a flow rate I think a 93 OEM lift pump that feeds the db2 is in that neighborhood of delivery, at not much less pressure. maybe 10 psi @ idle
 
3bals said:
I'm the one that asked Leroy about the Purolator-Facet lift pump. I was interested it because of the 10 ft lift and the higher pressure than stock. And, I don't see my truck or any other 6.5 using more than 30 gph. That's either a lot of RPMs or MPHs :eek: , considering I get 17 mpg at 70 mph.

Anyhow, I'm glad to see some discussion on it.
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Tow something of substance or high wind drag and you will use every bit of the 30gph a lift could give out.

What led me to come up with the FTB concept was hill climb towing EGT @ 800 F, full throttle, 2700 rpm, 10 psi boost, towing load and nothing left with fuel to make the engine work any harder, barely making 48 mph, did the FTB same load with same hill was able to sustain 65mph.

Added the FRB-5 and same load if I wanted to could make the same climb @ 80-85 mph
 
AutoZone E8012S

I have successfuly installed a lift pump from AutoZone p/n E8012S (Airtex) in two 6.2NA Subs and our 6.5TD Tahoe. Summit and Advance Auto carries them, too:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATX-E8012S
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATX-E8012S

I've attached a .bmp of the fittings I used for the Beast. They've lasted over four (4) years. I used a sheet of inner tire tube between the pump and metal mounting bracket to dampen the vibration. Also used sheet metal bent to form a stone/water guard around the pump.
 

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Just thought I'd post some specs I found for those who don't already know them (like me):

FRB-5 Reciprocating Fuel Pump (For Reference Only)

Performance

Voltage: 12 Volt (9.0 min – 16.0 vdc max)

Minimum Flow Rate: 170 liters per hour (45 gph)

Deadhead Pressure: 56 to 76 kPa (8.0 to 11.0 psi)

Maximum Current Draw: 2.3 amps

Life: >18,000 hours

Dry Lift: 48 inches (120 with optional outlet check valve)

Compatible Fuels: No-lead regular gasoline, premium gasoline, gasoline-alcohol blends, diesel and biodiesel fuels (20% and 100%), and E85

Corrosion Resistance: 96 hour salt spray test (ASTM B-117)

Operating Temperature Range: -40ºF to 155ºF (-40ºC to 68.3ºC)





Electrical

Reverse Voltage Protected

Transient Voltage Protection

Ground: Neutral Ground: Circuit Board is Not Internally Grounded to Pump Body

Electrical Connection: Flying Lead (1); No Connector

Fuse: 5 amp recommended





Mechanical

Inlet & Outlet Size: 1/4-18 NPSF

Inlet Filter Screen: 70 micron

Magnetic Trap: Yes

Outlet Check Valve: None





Available Options:

Adjustable Pressure Regulator 135-631

Outlet Check Valve Fitting 128-3220 (5/16 Hose Barb)

420 micron Filter Screen
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For Turbine Doc:

Could you post a picture of your parallel FRB and stock pump setup?

I'm having a hard time figuring out how to plumb such a system without air entering up stream from the "off" pump without check valves.

In series it seems simple, parallel with check valves seems like one pump could "bypass back into the feed through the non functioning pump...(not sure if I'm describing that clearly enough)....
 
here is only pic I have handy this late at nite, in my early install planning when deciding if adding Cummins lift or 2nd OEM, before I found the FRB 5
 

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Walbro is mounted on the frame cross over, then outlet hose ties to a tee fitting just before the filter mgr inlet and one or both lifts feed the single inlet. No need foe checks each lift pump has it's own check it their outlets sufficiently robust enough to manage the pressure from the other pump, another plus both pumps are internally regulated/pulsed to pump on when the pump logic senses a low enough pressure to pump
 
Turbine Doc said:
Walbro is mounted on the frame cross over, then outlet hose ties to a tee fitting just before the filter mgr inlet and one or both lifts feed the single inlet. No need foe checks each lift pump has it's own check it their outlets sufficiently robust enough to manage the pressure from the other pump, another plus both pumps are internally regulated/pulsed to pump on when the pump logic senses a low enough pressure to pump
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So, you power both the stock LP and the walbro simultaneously?

I got the impression from some of your other posts you turn one off and one on...

The pic you provided is good enough friend. I can see it's literally just "T-d" in on both suction and pressure sides.

But feel free to toss up a few more if you want!

;)
 
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