International Diesel in NY quesiton

[DEERE3594]

Is that the reman place people have had trouble about? That is the long block in my 97 (new to me truck) that I seem to be having oil pressure trouble with. Just curious

 

[Acesneights1]

I think so.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

That's the place. I know I talked with them before and they seemed knowledgeable, but there is ALOT of bad stories about there workmanship(and lack thereof). Also alot of stories about low oil pressure from them as well.

 

[DEERE3594]

So say someone has low oil pressure, can you chagne the oil pump and be ok? :mad2:

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

So say someone has low oil pressure, can you chagne the oil pump and be ok? :mad2:

I know at the place there were a few that ran into just that problem. They would install the 92-96 pumps in the 97+ style blocks with squirters in them which obviously gives low oil pressure at almost all times. There were one or two where they found missing oil galley plugs in them as well, not to mention the fact that they use RTV to seal almost everything on them instead of gaskets.

 

[DEERE3594]

I know at the place there were a few that ran into just that problem. They would install the 92-96 pumps in the 97+ style blocks with squirters in them which obviously gives low oil pressure at almost all times. There were one or two where they found missing oil galley plugs in them as well, not to mention the fact that they use RTV to seal almost everything on them instead of gaskets.

So in other words I need to bend over and get 2 new motors now, if you were in the situation? The motor was put in the truck in 05 but only has a few thousand miles on it

 

[davo727]

Well you could pull it , look it all over, ck the clearances and r/r whatever bearings needed, put in a new 97+ oil pump, make sure all the galley plugs etc are correct.

Or wait for it to blow up and it kills the crank and block and everything.

 

[DEERE3594]

Well you could pull it , look it all over, ck the clearances and r/r whatever bearings needed, put in a new 97+ oil pump, make sure all the galley plugs etc are correct.

Or wait for it to blow up and it kills the crank and block and everything.

All of that, one way or the other, is what I was afraid of hearing

 

[btfarm]

Justin, I haven't actually read all the posts on this but have you actually put a real gauge on the motor directly where the sending unit goes?

 

[DEERE3594]

Justin, I haven't actually read all the posts on this but have you actually put a real gauge on the motor directly where the sending unit goes?

A cheepo from harbor fright but yes :nonod:

 

[chevyCowboy]

a little off topic but could a guy put one of leroys ops extentions on and put a T inline and run an oil pressure guage off that?

 

[DEERE3594]

a little off topic but could a guy put one of leroys ops extentions on and put a T inline and run an oil pressure guage off that?

i did something like that.. well i removed the ops from the hose and put my aftermarket gauge there. im sure what your talking would work though

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

If it were mine and I was on a TIGHT budget, I would drop the pan and pull the rod caps off and look at the rod bearings. If there is bearing damage the rod bearings are normally the first to show it. If that checks out next pull the oil pump apart and measure the diameter of the oil pump gears to see which style pump it actually is. The late model engines do hold low oil pressure at idle compared to the early non squirters, but it should still be able to hold roughly 10-12 at a HOT idle.

 

[DEERE3594]

If it were mine and I was on a TIGHT budget, I would drop the pan and pull the rod caps off and look at the rod bearings. If there is bearing damage the rod bearings are normally the first to show it. If that checks out next pull the oil pump apart and measure the diameter of the oil pump gears to see which style pump it actually is. The late model engines do hold low oil pressure at idle compared to the early non squirters, but it should still be able to hold roughly 10-12 at a HOT idle.

thank you sir!

 

[JiFaire]

If I was gonna do that, I'd be looking at closing off the squirters... there was a thread on here a while ago where a member had problem squirts that dropped his oil pressure to almost zero. It doesn't take much, in the rebuild process, to mess those up.

I'll look for the thread...

 

[DEERE3594]

If I was gonna do that, I'd be looking at closing off the squirters... there was a thread on here a while ago where a member had problem squirts that dropped his oil pressure to almost zero. It doesn't take much, in the rebuild process, to mess those up.

I'll look for the thread...

Thank you Jim, please do. Ill go google squirters

 

[JiFaire]

Hokay... the thread I was thinking of is here

The OP is Turbovanman, a technician from Vancouver - had a similar issue. There is a lot to consider in this thread, but I think the issue ended up being squirters that just flowed too much oil.

Not sure what the effect would be of closing a couple of them off... anybody?

 

[JiFaire]

You might want to PM turbovanman and see if he has any suggesions. He's a good guy.

 

[DEERE3594]

is the squirters just above the cylinders in the pic?

 

[DEERE3594]

You might want to PM turbovanman and see if he has any suggesions. He's a good guy.

Thank you Jim