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Hydrogen Generator

Well I have not had a chance. I disconnected it because it is pre-turbo and it will suck the unit dry. I have had a problem with my egr and not time to fix it. So it is just installed but not running. Hopefully my time will settle down and I will have a chance to fix a few things on my truck and get it hooked back up.... Sorry for the delay...
 
Hmmmm....... Let's look at the facts.... Thread started end of February.... Unit made by "A couple buddies"... No Pics in 5 Months although the unit was installed and operating somewhat.... Although that I could understand if it is A truly functioning unit and waiting on patents.... And the big one.... Hydrogen extraction is A high input energy reaction.. And thus is hard too believe you see any real net gain in the end... Just my opinion... But me thinks this is A work.... Just like the dream that hybrid electric cars are more efficient vehicles.. The carbon foot print of those things in the end is larger then A early nineties diesel let alone anything current. Not too mention the problems with the heavy metals and toxins left behind. Just like EGR's and DPF's "Help" Reductions in harmful output per gallon of fuel. But they cause you too burn more fuel per mile.. How is this A true reduction?????? Oh... The list goes on and on.... The great "Green movement..." Best money maker yet... LMAO.... Just my opinion...
Rhino.
 
Well I am going to update this for all who care. For Black Rhino don't read it. I am sorry I have not been able to drop everything for this. It is a project to see if you really can get more MPG with a real hydrogen Generator. The problem we are having is with the large volume of air our great trucks generate, we were sucking all the water out of the secondary bubbler tank into the motor. I am putting together an electric valve system to close the valve when we reach and certain amount of vacuum to keep form ingesting the water. while we redesign the bubbler tank with baffles. I am currently keeping track of my MPG w/o the generator. This will be done with GPS mileage because tire size is screwing up my speedo and the Predator just can't get it right. I am also keeping track of when I tow or any pertenant info. I am sorry this has taken a while but when you work 7 days a week while also starting my own small business and a new baby I don't have a lot of time to squeeze this in. I have priorities... it will still be a couple of weeks before I turn the unit back on just to get a real average of my mileage..
 
Thanks for the update John...life has priorities...we all know that.
My work this year has been off close to 40% and now the fall rush is hitting.
It's left me working until dark many nights and barely able to get out of my truck at the end of the day.
Don't sweat it...but please do keep us in the loop with new developments.
I am certainly very interested.
 
is it really to much to ask for you to post even a camera phone pic of it? takes about 2 min
 
Clark20ry said:
Ok I am having a Hydrogen generator installed. My truck average 17 - 18 mpg in town and over 20 on the highway hand calculated.I will let you all know what if any results are. My only problem is I just put new tires on so don't if that is going to effect my mileage.
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Hello Clark20ry,

You mean an HHO generator, right? Also called Brown's gas generator. Produces Hydrogen and Oxygen gas from electrolysis of water. Works on gassers by replacing some of the gasoline with hydrogen for fuel. Added benefit is the added oxygen creates a cleaner burn.

Gasoline engined computerized electronic fuel management systems have to keep the air:fuel ratio pegged at 14:1 and they meter it by measuring the oxygen level in the exhaust, i.e., the reason why Lambda O2 sensors play a significant role in fuel management.

Because O2 levels are higher when HHO is fed into the intake, the O2 sensor signals to the computer which causes more fuel to be metered into the intake to maintain the 14:1 ratio. To workaround the computer's response (if unchecked, fuel efficiency will actually go down!), the computer is tricked to receiving signals from the O2 sensor that indicates a lower level of O2 inthe exhaust (there are "EFIE" gadgets designed for this, DIY or available for purchase). The trick is to tune the EFIE to send the correct voltage signal to the computer that would match the intake of H2 (and O2) from the HHO generator.

It's much simpler for diesels. Why? No O2 sensors!!!

On a similar note, I'm building a few of my own (modular) design and will share the info on this forum. They will be installed on our '98 6.5TD Tahoe (once I get it up running again), '06 5.3Gasser Avalanche, and '63 Diter LKB Panther diesel powered electric generator (12 hp driving a 3.5kW generator to be converted to WVO for residential power application).

Regards,
Franko
 
Exactly that is what we are trying to do. We are trying to make a real unit that produces a real result. Thats why I am trying to post our progress here. I will try and take pictures on Friday and post them of the unit and its components.
 
Following this now closely my friend, thanks for doing this. I also understand the time constraints on a man who works for a living and has a family waiting for him at home. If it wasn't for my job I'd never have time to get on here anymore.
 
Clark20ry said:
<snip>The problem we are having is with the large volume of air our great trucks generate, we were sucking all the water out of the secondary bubbler tank into the motor. I am putting together an electric valve system to close the valve when we reach and certain amount of vacuum to keep form ingesting the water. while we redesign the bubbler tank with baffles...
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Hello John,

You may want to consider installing a vacuum pressure relief valve on the bubbler tank, or in the piping that runs from the bubbler tank. There are several positive pressure relief valves available that can be converted to operate as vacuum pressure relief by simply reversing the poppet and spring. Trick is finding the valve with the right pop pressure value, but it's simpler than the electric valve setup.

Regards,
Franko
 
Franko914 said:
Hello John,

You may want to consider installing a vacuum pressure relief valve on the bubbler tank, or in the piping that runs from the bubbler tank. There are several positive pressure relief valves available that can be converted to operate as vacuum pressure relief by simply reversing the poppet and spring. Trick is finding the valve with the right pop pressure value, but it's simpler than the electric valve setup.

Regards,
Franko
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Well I tried that. I currently have a oil breather 1/4" NPT on the tank for vaccuum release and I still drain the tank. That is why we are trying to do the valve and or baffles in the tank with a vaccum release.
 
Clark20ry said:
Well I tried that. I currently have a oil breather 1/4" NPT on the tank for vaccuum release and I still drain the tank. That is why we are trying to do the valve and or baffles in the tank with a vaccum release.
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Gotcha. Do you use a vaporizer (a.k.a. scrubber, condenser, etc.) tank? It should be installed between the bubbler tank and air intake system, mounted around same height as bubbler tank. Many setups do not use the vaporizer/scrubber tank thinking the bubbler tank will do the job. Can you post pics?

Regards,
Franko
 
Franko914 said:
Gotcha. Do you use a vaporizer (a.k.a. scrubber, condenser, etc.) tank? It should be installed between the bubbler tank and air intake system, mounted around same height as bubbler tank. Many setups do not use the vaporizer/scrubber tank thinking the bubbler tank will do the job. Can you post pics?

Regards,
Franko
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No but that is a good idea... and Yes I will have them soon...
 
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