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Going mechanical with a Moose Omega Marine IP

I went back a few pages and to lazy to look any harder. Your attachment point on IP are because your using gasser cables?
And Im slow but I don't get what the tube with slit cut in it does?
I really like the relocation of the bracket, it free's up space to time the IP. On mine it is very tight and I think maxed out on timing.
 
The factory bracket sucks at best. I wonder what bracket was used on the vans. There is NO room with how huge those stupid runners are.

The tube he made is how the second cable is hooking onto the first. It normally hooks to the other pin on the arm. But there is no room to fit it with his crossover.
 
Good idea on van bracket, whats Hummer look like?

Throttle and cruise hook up to same place on IP from factory too.
 
Tasty! You could use winch cables off that stout bracket, far better than some stamped piece of OEM sheet tin.
 
Burning oil said:
I went back a few pages and to lazy to look any harder. Your attachment point on IP are because your using gasser cables?
And Im slow but I don't get what the tube with slit cut in it does?
I really like the relocation of the bracket, it free's up space to time the IP. On mine it is very tight and I think maxed out on timing.
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Yes I'm using cables off of a Tahoe with a 350 Vortec. I wanted to see what could be done with stuff that's readily available at the wrecking yard rather than have to source the rarer mechanical IP parts.

The tube on the linkage is to allow the throttle and cruise cables to work independently. When the arm moves due to the throttle cable being pulled, the cruise cable needs to be able to stay stationary. Likewise, when the cruise cable is pulled, it will push the cable past the end of the gas pedal. The factory black plastic thingy floats on the cable for this reason. When I get it all hooked up and proven out I will take a video (with narration) showing how it operates.

My only concern with my bracket is that the cable end doesn't move relative to the pump when the pump is rotated to adjust timing. So I may need to do some fine tweaking once I get my timing set where I want it. Alternatively I could make the bracket in 2 pieces with some adjustment slots, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble. If it proves to be a problem then I may do that.
 
n8in8or said:
Yes I'm using cables off of a Tahoe with a 350 Vortec. I wanted to see what could be done with stuff that's readily available at the wrecking yard rather than have to source the rarer mechanical IP parts.

The tube on the linkage is to allow the throttle and cruise cables to work independently. When the arm moves due to the throttle cable being pulled, the cruise cable needs to be able to stay stationary. Likewise, when the cruise cable is pulled, it will push the cable past the end of the gas pedal. The factory black plastic thingy floats on the cable for this reason. When I get it all hooked up and proven out I will take a video (with narration) showing how it operates.

My only concern with my bracket is that the cable end doesn't move relative to the pump when the pump is rotated to adjust timing. So I may need to do some fine tweaking once I get my timing set where I want it. Alternatively I could make the bracket in 2 pieces with some adjustment slots, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble. If it proves to be a problem then I may do that.
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Ah yes I forgot the cruise has to take up the slack. So your engagement point is at the top of the slot not on the arm.
 
Nate, thought about using a ball stud and swivel end (like on Quadrajets w/cruise or TBI's) to allow for IP rotation on the cable end?
 
Burning oil said:
Ah yes I forgot the cruise has to take up the slack. So your engagement point is at the top of the slot not on the arm.
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Correct, it's at the top.

Husker6.5 said:
Nate, thought about using a ball stud and swivel end (like on Quadrajets w/cruise or TBI's) to allow for IP rotation on the cable end?
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I see what you're saying. The swivel I dont *think* will be a problem because the exposed end of the cable is so long but we'll see. I think the problem will be the arm getting closer or further away from the bracket as the pump is rotated. Once I get all the pieces in place I'll put it through the motions and see how everything reacts.
 
Burning oil said:
Good idea on van bracket, whats Hummer look like?

Throttle and cruise hook up to same place on IP from factory too.
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N/A hummer have db2 and single stat crossover(slightly different) like the 92-93 pickups. Turbo hummer all run the ds4, so the van intake is not a problem with cruise control. Mine is a combo of non matching parts at the moment, my cruise cable was broken at the box when I bought it, all to be redone hopefully soon.

My cruise cable was hooked up to the rear arm (with the return spring iirc)-unused one to the right in his first picture. Fleet trucks never got cruise control, so I am not familiar with cruise on a db2 enough to remember how the factory design is other than the secondary arm. I can't remember both on one arm. Isn't it throttle to the front and cruise to the rear?
 
n8in8or said:
Correct, it's at the top.



I see what you're saying. The swivel I dont *think* will be a problem because the exposed end of the cable is so long but we'll see. I think the problem will be the arm getting closer or further away from the bracket as the pump is rotated. Once I get all the pieces in place I'll put it through the motions and see how everything reacts.
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Well, there's always the "if it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer" school of thought.
 
Will be a long way down the road. Many other project to do first, but for sure next time i'm knee deep in her i'll come up with something using your design. Thanks.
 
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