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Current project, 64 VETTE

Wow thats a clean example of a 64..

How do you tell 'knock off' knock offs? Huge detail/quality difference?
 
3500GMC said:
Wow thats a clean example of a 64..

How do you tell 'knock off' knock offs? Huge detail/quality difference?
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The knock off wheels were origanally used on the lemans cars for racing. GM only offerred a few of them to the public to get them approved for racing, and this car was one of the ones with them. Not to up on how to distinguish the difference. but I do know this car has the real ones on it. Last time he priced a set of real ones needing refinished they were $6K, and these were just redone.
 
Well more fun fun fun. The float bowl has to be swapped out now on the primary side. It started leaking fuel at the banjo bolt, so I checked to make sure it was tight and I could tell right away something wasn't right. Pulled it off and the threads were wiped out, so I'll get one ordered tommorrow. I DID get a short video of it before the fuel leak started. Can't really see it well in the video as youtube compressed the video file down and it doesn't show up, but it's holding 30 PSI of oil pressure at a 600 idle and running about 170 on the guage. And yes that was a little north of 7000 it was hitting when I revved it. This thing is pretty responsive to say the least. And the A/C is COLD to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk9L2Wp10II
 
For the duration it sounds radical.. Hope it makes vacuum for you..

Have you dialed in the carb and timing? Did the ol Vac gauge idle mix tune?

Of course she needs some break in miles..

BTW I'm lovin that car.. Beautiful..
 
Just done a basic timing set on it so far of 36 degrees total which is 12 at idle, and rough set the idle mixture on it. Need to get it good and hot before I finish dialing in the jetting and such on it. At 600 it is holding about 7 inches of vacuum, but at 700 it is holding about 10. If I would have known it would do this good at idle, I wouldn't have put a fast idle solonoid on it for the A/C as it only drops about 100 RPM VS the 700 RPM the 292 dropped when the A/C kicked on. Ought to be a fun street ride though, and it looks like it won't run hot like the 11.5:1 engine with the 292 cam did. I could only run it for about 5 minutes before it would be at 210 and climibing with the A/C off, this one has yet to break 185 with the A/C on running in the shop. If it hadn't been for how bad it ran with the A/C before, I wouldn't have pulled the engine out of it. But he was dead set he wanted A/C in it.
 
ak diesel driver said:
I have to agree w3500gmc sounds more radical than a 274*. is that adv or at 050?
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It's one of COMPS EXTREME ENERGY grinds and uses a split duration grind. 274 intake, 286 exhaust at .006 lift with .490 total lift at the rocker. They say it is designed to ramp the valve open so fast it actually will almost float on the way open due to the ramp rate(it snaps the valve open in a HURRY).

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=87&sb=2

I should have done a video of it with the 292 cam in it, that thing was a THUMPER at an idle. When it had the 750 double pumper race carb on it, I could get it to idle at 700 and it would SHAKE the ground with the side pipe headers on it. DEFINATELY not streetable and the reason it came out.
 
THEFERMANATOR said:
Just done a basic timing set on it so far of 36 degrees........At 600 it is holding about 7 inches of vacuum, but at 700 it is holding about 10......
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Just have to put the super tune on it. :) I wouldn't be afraid to bump the total lead up a few more degrees. Maybe do a limit on total lead and dial in more initial lead.. Vacuum advance unhooked for setting your mechanical adv. of course.. Add in Vac Adv and lead soars to well over 40 degrees.. If she's lean it'll part throttle stumble and spark knock.. Maybe even limit your Vac adv...

A little more initial lead will help you idle stronger and the cam will take on a different note.

This cam in a 406 will sound mild. It's been my experience that smaller cube engines sound more radical with 'conservative' grinds..

A little more quality time..:thumbsup:
 
Looks real nice. I had the same heads as those 461's for years. Did all the machine work on them very close to what you have done. Never used them and finally sold to a buddy that still has them and has never used them. I got them back around 1979-1980.
 
Burning oil said:
Looks real nice. I had the same heads as those 461's for years. Did all the machine work on them very close to what you have done. Never used them and finally sold to a buddy that still has them and has never used them. I got them back around 1979-1980.
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These 461's came from the factory with the 2.02/160 valves which was a RAREITY for 461's. They were also the larger intake runner design with the unshrouded small combustion chambers. They only came on the 365HP CORVETTE and a few high HP CHEVELLES that I am aware of as most of them got the 1.94/1.50 valves or had the shrouded combustion chambers. And the smaller the displacement, the more radical the cam sounds. The 292 sounded like a full on roller cam in this thing whereas a 406 with one just has a nice lopey idle to it. The ported big runner heads also add a bit to the idle lope as they don't work well down low.
 
Mine were 1.94's but machined to 2.02in 1.60ex.
I want to say 64cc chamber, but its been way to long. They would have been really high compression.
I remember paying $80 for the set out of the junk yard. They did not have any threaded bosses for bracketry (like yours)

Edit: just watched the vid. The steeringwheel is worth $1000.
 
Burning oil said:
Mine were 1.94's but machined to 2.02in 1.60ex.
I want to say 64cc chamber, but its been way to long. They would have been really high compression.
I remember paying $80 for the set out of the junk yard. They did not have any threaded bosses for bracketry (like yours)

Edit: just watched the vid. The steeringwheel is worth $1000.
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These don't have threaded bosses either, and are only 58CC combustion chambers in em. I know alot of people put 2.02 valves in, but forget about unshrouding teh combustion chamber area so you can actually use them, otherwise yo uactually lose flow by going to the bigger valve. And yep that's the 64 ralleye wheel as this car was one of the ones GM built to get them into SEBRING(back when you had to build 1500 of a car to race it).
 
Few more pics of where it's at now.

The interior is all buttoned up and ready to go. And got me a test driver ready to go.
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I think mine were also 58cc now that you posted yours. I remember them being smaller than most anything else. I did screw in studs and guide plates too.
Your test driver needs a nappy nap.
 
Almost got it done. Replaced the wheel cylinders, and bleed the brakes out. Got the exhaust hooked up and mufflers swapped out today. Heres a sound clip of it with the JONES FULL BOAR MF1226 MAGNAFLOW knock off mufflers. It's still burning out the oil and stuff from the insides of the pipes and loaded up a bit from running in the garage, but sounds pretty dang good I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82yfZu6jvc
 
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