• Welcome to The Truck Stop! We see you haven't REGISTERED yet.

    Your truck knowledge is missing!
    • Registration is FREE , all we need is your birthday and email. (We don't share ANY data with ANYONE)
    • We have tons of knowledge here for your diesel truck!
    • Post your own topics and reply to existing threads to help others out!
    • NO ADS! The site is fully functional and ad free!
    CLICK HERE TO REGISTER!

    Problems registering? Click here to contact us!

    Already registered, but need a PASSWORD RESET? CLICK HERE TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD!

Big name tuners are no longer selling "off road/race" tuning

Having spent years working in the petroleum fuel supply side of things as mechanic and electrician- I can tell you 100% that if the grid is down so is the ability to get gas or diesel.
If you don’t have the ability to make your own fuel, how would you fill the tank?
Try your best to find gas stations that have their own back up generator big enough to power the pumps and clean enough signal to run the computer- Not likely.

Electric has the advantage of solar power on your rooftop can charge the car/truck if needed. Granted slowly if they didn’t invest in battery storage, but not like folks can slowly get gasoline or diesel to trickle into their car from stuff at the house. If you run natural gas car and have spent the bucks to fill your car from that at home- ok.

Sorry, but zombie day doesn’t hurt a tesla nut as bad as it does a modern diesel nut. I can get used oil to drive my db2 6.5, but a duramax/ cummins/ powerstroke or ds4 6.5 isn’t gonna.
Well, I have one farmer friend up by Neligh, NE who runs his whole farm - farmhouse, machine shed, two barns - off of the solar array between his farmhouse and machine shed, with a bank of storage batteries and a voltage inverter in the machine shed. He usually is able to sell his excess electrical capacity back to Nebraska Public Power District each month. He heats the 130 year old (in gorgeously maintained/restored/remodeled condition) farmhouse with an external wood furnace supplied with big chunks of firewood from the shelter belts around the perimeter of the farm. He has a diesel tank on the farm to fuel his old John Deere tractor and his combine and his pickup. He also charges his Chevy Volt off his array, it's used for the 7 mile trip to Neligh or 42 miles to Norfolk, NE to shop, etc. Or to run the 175 miles down here to Lincoln. That three days of -20+ to -30+ cold snap we went through last February? He came through without a glitch, never lost power or heat! Oh, yeah, there's a HUGE wind farm array just north of Neligh, stretching for about 15 miles, with one of the windmills about ¾ of a mile west of his farmhouse, no failures of those, either! In fact, all the windfarms in Nebraska actually produced an excess of electrical production during the cold snap. Unlike Texass', ours are winterized and designed to run year round, regardless of weather conditions. BTW, my friend's farm was also the site of the Willie Nelson and Neil Young Harvest the Hope concert back in September 2014.

Have another farmer friend who lives over by Wisner, NE who has a fairly large (40,000 head) confined hog operation and has designed his hog sheds to supply a methane generator from the hog waste that then collects all the methane gas and compresses it and into storage tanks. He has a 100# propane tank in the bed of his K3500 Dually Crewcab Duramax Silverado that he fills with compressed liquified Methane and uses a Bully Dog Propane injection kit to Methane fog his Duramax. When he's Methane fogging and running just enough diesel to fire the mixture, he gets 72mpg on the highway on the dino/hog mixture. He also has tanks out on his center pivots, all 14 Sections worth (that's 8,960 acres), to fuel the 454 Chevy motors that pump the water to power his center pivots to irrigate the feed corn to feed the hogs with during the year. He also uses the methane produced by the hog operation to power the four 30KW generators that provide lighting, air circulation and heating (methane converted propane furnaces) to the barns. The initial investment to build the methane generator system and compressor system paid back in 5 years and it drastically reduced his overhead costs for fuel and electricity. He's still hooked up to NPPD's grid for emergency and high demand back up, and does put a tank or two of diesel in his pickup every couple of months, but is pretty much energy independent.
 
Meh . . . It is just a matter of time until we crack the code for another solution to replace the problematic fossil fuels currently in use. Fretting over 'da-man' coming down on diesel is just a short term complaint where the marketplace is likely to ditch it anyway. Just like the filament light bulb, gasoline and diesel have had a long run and are overdue for a replacement.

Hydrogen is starting to gain traction. Once we figure out how to cleanly and sustainably make the stuff at scale, I see this quickly phasing-out fossil fuels in the automotive sector (and probably OTR too). Aside from a clean alternative to fossil fuels, hydrogen is arguably safer as (should the stuff leak) it goes straight up as it dissipates.

Related, a step-forward development recently happened in the fusion arena. If this fusion discovery passes peer-review and is scalable, it stands to boost the hydrogen sector as a clean energy source to create the hydrogen.


Once we are over to a clean power source, modders can mod all they want as pollution is no longer part of the equation.
NASA has been using hydrogen 'large scale' for many decades...consumables are an issue in the production process...there is at least one company producing decent HHO generators but for big rigs then you need plenty of energy (second get/alt) to run it all.
 
Off-grid solar is definitely attractive for those whom want to claim that they have free and renewable energy.

Sailboat owners also laugh at powerboat owners with the claim of free transportation.

But both solar off-grid and sailboat owners are ignoring a boomerang which comes back with a stiff whack to the wallet. Actually it is a double whack. The installation requires a stiff up-front cost for those panels and sails (whack), they both have life limits, and need replacement in time (whack). So the powerboat owners get the last laugh when they comment that their fuel cost about the same, or maybe less than, the new replacement sails.

Regarding use of the Volt for transportation, use caution as GM has a series of expanding recalls and warnings to *NOT* park it inside of anything due to risk of thermal run-away.
 
Off-grid solar is definitely attractive for those whom want to claim that they have free and renewable energy.

Sailboat owners also laugh at powerboat owners with the claim of free transportation.

But both solar off-grid and sailboat owners are ignoring a boomerang which comes back with a stiff whack to the wallet. Actually it is a double whack. The installation requires a stiff up-front cost for those panels and sails (whack), they both have life limits, and need replacement in time (whack). So the powerboat owners get the last laugh when they comment that their fuel cost about the same, or maybe less than, the new replacement sails.

Regarding use of the Volt for transportation, use caution as GM has a series of expanding recalls and warnings to *NOT* park it inside of anything due to risk of thermal run-away.
The fire thing scares me. Even with power tool batteries. I need a fire resistant battery staion or 2. Right now we still have chargers in our house. I had 3 battery chargers/ batteries catch fire. 2 Souix 12 volt and 1 Dewalt

One on a new kitchen floor southwest of Rockford.

We had 2 friends have Ford vehicle fires. Another guessed at having a Ford fire, but their house was so badly burnt the cause was never determined - other than they thought it started in the attached garage. There was a 5 gallon can of gas and another vehicle in there
 
Off-grid solar is definitely attractive for those whom want to claim that they have free and renewable energy.

Sailboat owners also laugh at powerboat owners with the claim of free transportation.

But both solar off-grid and sailboat owners are ignoring a boomerang which comes back with a stiff whack to the wallet. Actually it is a double whack. The installation requires a stiff up-front cost for those panels and sails (whack), they both have life limits, and need replacement in time (whack). So the powerboat owners get the last laugh when they comment that their fuel cost about the same, or maybe less than, the new replacement sails.

Regarding use of the Volt for transportation, use caution as GM has a series of expanding recalls and warnings to *NOT* park it inside of anything due to risk of thermal run-away.
Aside from the facts that your analogy is false and your example doesn't reflect current (no pun intended) technology, efficiency and pricing of renewable systems, nice try at bashing something you apparently know little about. Depending on the company you use, up front costs can be minimal to none, amortized over a fixed period or the system's life. You also fail to account for the cost benefits of selling excess electricity BACK to the Utility Company (called Net Metering) that you produce that also mitigates the cost of the system. My friend powering his farm with a solar array broke even on the initial installation costs in year six (two years ago) and his records show that he has been paid more by NPPD for his excess production that what he's been billed for usage since the installation was done. It's a win-win-win situation with being "off-grid", getting paid to be so, and reducing fossil fuels consumption equivalent to the grid electricity not used. BTW, the cost per KW/h of both solar and wind produced electricity, ALL costs involved, is lower than any fossil fuel (coal, NatGas, oil) produced electricity and has been so for almost five years, with far more positive benefits.
 
Ahhh it's so good to hear what our tax payer dollars are subsidizing. If it weren't for that almost all green energy wouldn't be cost effective
Wrong. You need to better inform yourself. It is because of economy of scale, development of more efficient solar cells, more efficient wind generators and lower production costs, that the cost of solar and wind electricity is lower per KW/hr than fossil fuels produced electricity. Or should we talk about the $40B EVERY YEAR in subsidies the US Government hands the most profitable industry on Earth, Big Oil, which pays NO Federal Taxes, if you want to talk real Welfare Queens on the Public's Tax Dollar. Or the subsidies given to the dying Coal Industry? No, Republican lawmakers in DC suckle at the teat of the Fossil Fuels Industry and have essentially cut ALL renewable fuels subsidy and research programs funding over the past decade. Nope, good old Capitalism is why solar and wind is cheaper than fossil fuels electrical production, NOT Government subsidies. In solar and wind, the "fuel" is FREE, sunlight and wind! You don't have the costs of strip mining the coal, shipping it 1,000+ miles and repeating that once or more daily for multiple plants - or drilling, building pipelines and transporting/refining gas or oil to power them - not to mention the initial costs of building equivalent fossil-fueled power plants are higher than that of equivalent capacity solar or wind, WITHOUT Government subsidies. Gee, cheaper to build and FREE "fuel". Win-win and CHEAPER than fossil fuels produced electricity!
 
I'm not even going to waste my time responding to a blog post sponsored by the Fossil Fuels Industry, that whines about the $100B TOTAL spent on subsidies to the fledgling renewables industry since 1979, but IGNORES the $40B YEARLY spent in subsidies to the World's most profitable Industry, Fossil Fuels. They lost ALL credibility when the article started in on Texas's totally unregulated and highly price manipulated ERCOT's 2019 antics, let's not forget that it was ERCOT's drive for maximum profits through negligence of maintenance and failure to weatherize their infrastructure that led to the utter and tragic failure of the Texas electrical grid during the February 2021 Arctic cold snap, a cold snap far worse here in Nebraska, yet not only did we not experience any failures of our properly maintained and weatherized wind farms or fossil fuel fired electrical plants, but we produced excess electricity during that period that we, nor anybody else who did, could send to Texas because the profit-hungry morons that ran ERCOT had taken them off the National Grid and thus also off National Regulation, their main objective. They are/were the new Enron of Big Scam electrical energy. The article is Fossil Fuels Industry tripe written to denigrate Renewables while ignoring the sins of the FFI in self-promotion.

Let me just say that ALL of Nebraska's Electrical providers, as well as many NatGas and all municipal water systems, are PUBLICLY OWNED! We also have some of the lowest overall electric rates in the US, as well as highest rates of uninterrupted service. Instead of profits, the money is put back into the system for maintenance and development of new sources such as renewables. As an interesting side note, because our electrical services State-wide ARE Publicly Owned and NON-Profit, Nebraska Public Power District, Norris Public Power District, Omaha Public Power District, Lincoln Electric System, Metropolitan Utilities District and the rest, qualify for NONE of the Government Subsidies or Tax Breaks that ERCOT, Con-Job Edison, or any other privately owned, for profit electric producers take advantage of.

That blog post is nothing more than like if Attila the Hun wrote a history of his conquest of Europe, but conveniently sanitized it and left out all of his raping, plundering, pillaging, burning and murdering.

It is NO different than the long-discredited UC-Berkley 'study' - funded by a Fossil Fuels Industry 'grant' of $450K for a professor to write a paper for them that 'proved' that ethanol as a motor fuel used more energy to produce than what it gave out as a fuel. It was later proven, and the professor confessed to, much of the data cited was false, where research was non-existent he just made up numbers favorable to Fossil Fuels and plugged them in - in other words the Fossil Fuels Industry paid him a large sum of money as a respected scientist to write them a 'research' paper that gave them the results they wanted. In fact, the reality is quite the opposite, ethanol fuel production - including the farming and transportation of the corn - consumes less energy to produce than what it releases as a motor fuel, even more so if the electricity supplied to the ethanol plant is itself renewable - wind or solar in origin. And several factors more efficient in Second Generation Cellulosic ethanol plants like over in Shenandoah, IA, when biological enzymes break down cellulose plant material - leaves, geass clippings, stems, stalks, wood chips even - into the simple sugars glucose and fructose that are the sugars found in corn kernels and other grains that are fermented into alcohol through biotic action. The nice thing with 2nd Gen ethanol plants, you don't need to use grain to get those sugars for fermentation, any part of the plant that contains non-fermentable cellulose can now be used to make ethanol.
 
Wrong. You need to better inform yourself. It is because of economy of scale, development of more efficient solar cells, more efficient wind generators and lower production costs, that the cost of solar and wind electricity is lower per KW/hr than fossil fuels produced electricity. Or should we talk about the $40B EVERY YEAR in subsidies the US Government hands the most profitable industry on Earth, Big Oil, which pays NO Federal Taxes, if you want to talk real Welfare Queens on the Public's Tax Dollar. Or the subsidies given to the dying Coal Industry? No, Republican lawmakers in DC suckle at the teat of the Fossil Fuels Industry and have essentially cut ALL renewable fuels subsidy and research programs funding over the past decade. Nope, good old Capitalism is why solar and wind is cheaper than fossil fuels electrical production, NOT Government subsidies. In solar and wind, the "fuel" is FREE, sunlight and wind! You don't have the costs of strip mining the coal, shipping it 1,000+ miles and repeating that once or more daily for multiple plants - or drilling, building pipelines and transporting/refining gas or oil to power them - not to mention the initial costs of building equivalent fossil-fueled power plants are higher than that of equivalent capacity solar or wind, WITHOUT Government subsidies. Gee, cheaper to build and FREE "fuel". Win-win and CHEAPER than fossil fuels produced electricity!

Look at this site every day for the next year, then post what you think about renewables. This is for Alberta.

ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet
 
Oh, yeah, Alberta, home of the absolutely DIRTIEST, FILTHIEST Fossil Fuel on the planet, Tarsands, and the Provincial Government wholly owned by the Industry.
 
I was polite, giving you a link to a site that you could follow and give an observation.

You know nothing about Fort Mac, it is a natural occurring oil spill that is being cleaned up by the development there. No slave labor either.

You are a? Rhymes with plick.

Oh, I forgot to say, the Chinese own most of the Oil sands.
 
Back
Top