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1996 6.5 troubles

And your entitled to your money back. You may own the pump now. Heck if they still have your original you own that to minus core charge.

I would get all my labor money back, and take both pumps and have someone else fix it.

They can't fix it because they lack the knowledge to do it. Your their guinnea pig and your wallet will only get lighter if you continue with them.

Cut your losses and get what you can of your money back. They have no right to any of your money except the cost of the pump if it's not returnable to the supplier.
 
I bet they changed the pump 3 times and put the same PMD back on all 3 times.....Check/swap your PMD/FSD......and check/swap your harness.

Is your PMD relocated?......Where?.....Who's extension harness did you use?

Just a WAG......"Wild A$$ Guess"
 
I am not sure if people still use BBB, but report it to them if you cannot get your money back.
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BBB is a scam ........They called me up saying how my history is unblemished with no complaints and then proceeded to say I could advertise that I'm BBB accredited for the price of $499.00 a year......Basicly I can use their Logo and say I'm accredited, certified, rectified, homogenized, and pasteurized with the BBB......They are a privately owned Co. Blah, Blah, Blah.
 
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my history is unblemished with no complaints
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That alone is a miracle and an amazing accomplishment for any buisness, let alone one from brooklyn.

YO TONY, whats sa matta wid him, tell him ta pay up or he'll be a eatin wid da fishes .




Congrats on the impeccable buisness record. SSSSHHHHHH The feds might be listenin in.
 
eh, if it comes to all that, trying to get my money back, I'll just have my girlfriend write them a threatening letter. She's an attorney.
 
Call DMV......Now thats who you don't want to mess with.....If they find the "shop" didn't, "do the right thing" they will take the shop to "DMV court" where they're, Judge, Jury, and Extecutioner......Don't forget repair shops are Licensed by DMV, ever notice those "Green, Registered" signs hanging outside the shop?

A complaint and guilty verdict will stay with the shop forever......Along with customer reimbursement and a hefty fine payable to DMV.
 
Hey Stanley I am a little over an hour north of you and a good wrench with a fair amount of diesel experience .I charge fairly high if I am the hero and free if I am a zero!!!! This forum is a huge help by getting all of these brains in one spot and it has helped me out in the past. I really hate that grease monkey term though it implies that a monkey could do it!! Maybe a monkey can drive a vehicle but I doubt it could perform any of the complicated tests required to fix a modern vehicle.
 
oilslick said:
Hey Stanley I am a little over an hour north of you and a good wrench with a fair amount of diesel experience .I charge fairly high if I am the hero and free if I am a zero!!!! This forum is a huge help by getting all of these brains in one spot and it has helped me out in the past. I really hate that grease monkey term though it implies that a monkey could do it!! Maybe a monkey can drive a vehicle but I doubt it could perform any of the complicated tests required to fix a modern vehicle.
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No offense intended by the term "grease monkey", although that may very well be where the term comes from. I don't think of that nickname like that, I think of a grease monkey as someone who is experienced at many different types of vehicular repairs, and someone who likes to get down and dirty and find the root of the problem. Not just flash their ASE (or whatever) certification and then diagnose the problem solely on the code the pcm throws out without considering the causes behind the code they got.

I will give this shop the chance to actually fix the problem, since now they can't say its just the pump. If they don't work out I'll be in touch with you.
 
Beauty of the 6.5 in the right hands the tests aren't that complicated, problem is we have techs now conditioned to rely on the vehicle via codes to say what is wrong, with the 6.5 rarely are the codes a cause but more of symptom of what is happening.

For all it's "reported faults" the 6.5 isn't that complicated to trouble shoot, every once in a while the odd one happens out there that is more challenging than the rest of them, but I don't recall any on this site we haven't been able to get running again.

See what the shop will do to make it right, but I suspect the IP swaps were in response to a code, that was result of a bad gnd, or sensor input to the PCM, as someone asked before did same PMD get used on the swapped out IPs or a was new PMD used? If he's still clueless get it out of there looks like you have a member close by willing to lend a hand, shade tree mechanic or even a "grease monkey" :) with a modicum of diagnostic skilz should be able to figger it out with assistance of folks here.

One thing that needs to be done though even by the shop is step back to square 1,

Completing step by step diagnostics, rather than shotgunning what they think the issue is, IPs that were running/ PCM that were working rarely if ever are the cause of a no run condition.

PMD/FSD , Ignition switches, Optic sensor, crank sensor, wiring harnesses, fuses, gnds, RFI filter harnesses (if so equipped), bad PCMs maybe; I think now going into my 11th year of being on 6.5 forums (dang has it been that long???) I can maybe recall 2 actual bad PCMs.

Thing is collectively this site has most 6.5 continual experience on the web and probably in all of the 6.5 world work with us and we can get you back behind the steering wheel, giving your 6.5 "Bionic treatment" making it run longer, stronger, faster, it won't be $6M though sometimes it will feel that way :)
 
talked to the shop. they've pulled both tanks and cleaned the socks, chekced grounds, checked fuel lines. they said they arent giving up but they are having a difficult time to say the least. theyve tried things and it seemed to run fine, till they get out on the road and it just dies. said theyve had to have it towed back 3 times. they said they let it run for over an hour yesterday but as soon as they took it out on the road it died. I'll give them a couple more days and if they cant do it I'm gonna pull it out of there and get ahold of the guy a few posts back.
 
be sure to bring the plow in case it snows while I might have it!!! ha ha .Get the shop to write down everything they have tried and or checked so it can be relayed to this forum so it can get narrowed down a bit!!
 
When I got my truck 11 months ago I knew very little about Chev diesels. You guys had me fill out a diagnostic profile, then began guiding me through a process of isolating the problem. Where's that questionnaire? OPoster needs to start there. He'll then begin to understand where items are and the process of fuel getting through the system.

Once you guys got me in the process of following the sequences required to make the engine run I had it going quickly. I bought the truck "as is" and had it towed to my place. Actually took about $20 worth or return line to get it running. But I liked the way it sounded so eventually replaced GP's and injectors.

Patience will result in saving a lot of money, and members of this BB have the answers to any 6.5 problem!! I feel sorry for the OP being in such a hurry and having to trust his truck to those who "think" they know how to fix it.
 
D2 Cat said:
When I got my truck 11 months ago I knew very little about Chev diesels. You guys had me fill out a diagnostic profile, then began guiding me through a process of isolating the problem. Where's that questionnaire? OPoster needs to start there. He'll then begin to understand where items are and the process of fuel getting through the system.

Once you guys got me in the process of following the sequences required to make the engine run I had it going quickly. I bought the truck "as is" and had it towed to my place. Actually took about $20 worth or return line to get it running. But I liked the way it sounded so eventually replaced GP's and injectors.

Patience will result in saving a lot of money, and members of this BB have the answers to any 6.5 problem!! I feel sorry for the OP being in such a hurry and having to trust his truck to those who "think" they know how to fix it.
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Good advice and a reminder about the checklist.
 
Are you paying the bill for all that labor to drop the tank?

Why did they drop the tank and clean the sock?

Did they check the flow from the lift pump?

Did they check the flow from the lift pump from a source other than the line from the tank? - Such as hooking a hose on each end and pumping from one container to another?

It's just foolish to go from one thing to another without doing any diagnostics. If dropping the tank wasn't the result of low fuel flow or the lift pump wasn't tested to determine if it wasn't the source of the low flow, I would not pat for that worl unless you authorized it. And it would also be time to tell them adios.

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talked to the shop. they've pulled both tanks and cleaned the socks, chekced grounds, checked fuel lines. they said they arent giving up but they are having a difficult time to say the least. theyve tried things and it seemed to run fine, till they get out on the road and it just dies. said theyve had to have it towed back 3 times. they said they let it run for over an hour yesterday but as soon as they took it out on the road it died. I'll give them a couple more days and if they cant do it I'm gonna pull it out of there and get ahold of the guy a few posts back.
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I hate where this is going.

I see the most expensive diagnostic bill in history in the making.

Everything they are doing, with the exception of I/P maybe, you and a buddy could do with the help of the people here and save the hundreds maybe even thousands of dollars that you will be charged. I hope this nightmare ends soon for you. And as cheap as possible.

The sad truth is you're paying them to be without you're truck. If and when they figure it out I would hate to get that bill.

Keep us posted as to what they find, and share with them, the questions others have posted here. Many have asked about the PMD yet I still haven't seen you post any answers to that question. GOOD LUCK.
 
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