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Towing Capacity For a 3500?

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Towing Capacity For a 3500?

Whats the max? How much over a 2500HD?
 
A 3500 is basically a 2500HD but with duals.

Just like a 1500HD is like a 2500.

I can say that we tow 30,000+ with our 2500HDs and no short term problems.
 
gm has there own set limit, but to say there are alot of people going well beyond that limit, im sure there is heavier but this guy has a 49ft trailer with cement on it the trailer with cement weight 36k. he has airbags in it to help the back end from sagging alot
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These 3500 trucks can take just about anything you can throw at them.
When you start really get up there they need a little help with the rear suspension.
Make sure you have the needed brakes and a good controller!!! Stopping the load is the biggest issue.
 
I have a 01 3500 DA & am pulling a camper tri axle trailer that weighs in at 19,600 Truck & trailer at 26,400.
 
I'm curious, where you guys live is DOT getting on you much. I'm in the Kansas City area & I can promise you 3 things. 1- Your gonna get pulled over or waved into a weigh station. 2- You don't want to be over your tag weight. 3- If you're hauling for hire you better have all the correct Dot credentials & signs.
 
Pullin Weight

ElectricBoss said:
I'm curious, where you guys live is DOT getting on you much. I'm in the Kansas City area & I can promise you 3 things. 1- Your gonna get pulled over or waved into a weigh station. 2- You don't want to be over your tag weight. 3- If you're hauling for hire you better have all the correct Dot credentials & signs.
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If you read my forum you'll see Im pulling a 38 ft. camper & they are exempt from the road scales.I have pulled into different state scales throughout the U.S. & they just wave me through saying on the loud speaker Im exempt from weighing.I have never bene questioned from the DOT on my setup yet.:)
 
Yeah, I should have said that in my post. Rv's and such are exempt no matter what. I was thinking about getting a big ol honking Rv & gutting it out & turning it into my new equipment hauler. :eyebrows:
 
Farmers are also exempt from weigh scales but they do have a "limit" of 36,000lbs.
 
Trailer Weight

ElectricBoss said:
Yeah, I should have said that in my post. Rv's and such are exempt no matter what. I was thinking about getting a big ol honking Rv & gutting it out & turning it into my new equipment hauler. :eyebrows:
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Hi,I also forgot to tell ya that the pin weight on my fiver is only 8,000,The truck alone is alowed 15,000.Most of the weight I carry is over the tri-axles on the rig.It would be next to impossible to overload a duelly with a fiver camper.No room in the rig to put that much up front unless you filled it with cement,LOL.OH,Ya,I got 12 kangaroos for sale,Ya want to buy one,they are equiped with saddles.You get 25 jumps per gallon.:lol:
 
Butch said:
OH,Ya,I got 12 kangaroos for sale,Ya want to buy one,they are equiped with saddles.You get 25 jumps per gallon.:lol:
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Ship em up. I think I have a market for em. LOL. Yesterday one of the local KC,Mo. DOT guys was on the rampage. He was pulling guys over left & right & checking everything. Credentials, actual weight on the trailer, combining all the GVWR's, lights, you name it he had it on the list. There was a Marriott hotel by where he was pulling everybody over. Looked like a truck stop by the end of the day. Tons of dropped trailers. One of the contractors I work for got caught up in it & now has to go get a class A license. I have a bit of an advantage living in Kansas. My regular license is good up to 26,001 lbs so I don't have to worry about the different classes as long as I'm under that. I still think my gutted RV is the way to go. :)
 
RV Conversion

ElectricBoss said:
Ship em up. I think I have a market for em. LOL. Yesterday one of the local KC,Mo. DOT guys was on the rampage. He was pulling guys over left & right & checking everything. Credentials, actual weight on the trailer, combining all the GVWR's, lights, you name it he had it on the list. There was a Marriott hotel by where he was pulling everybody over. Looked like a truck stop by the end of the day. Tons of dropped trailers. One of the contractors I work for got caught up in it & now has to go get a class A license. I have a bit of an advantage living in Kansas. My regular license is good up to 26,001 lbs so I don't have to worry about the different classes as long as I'm under that. I still think my gutted RV is the way to go. :)
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When ya convert it leave the outside alone so it looks like a fver.That way they,ll think your pulling a fver camper.You,ll be able to sail right past the scales.Do you need to get your trailers inspected before tags are issued there. In Texas here you do.Im originally from Wisc. & up there you dont.You just get a reentry form for the tag when it exspires , no inspection required.:eyebrows:
 
Butch said:
Do you need to get your trailers inspected before tags are issued there. In Texas here you do.Im originally from Wisc. & up there you dont.You just get a reentry form for the tag when it exspires , no inspection required.
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Yes. Here my trailer (14k gooseneck car hauler) has to be inspected & re-licensed every year. I have two others that don't require inspection & I can get 2 year tags for those. One is a small tilt (I think 5k) & the other a 10k cargo. Also if you have a tag rating of 18k or higher on your truck (mine is 26k) it also is only issued a one year tag. They just started that on the trailers not too long ago. I think these laws about trailering have been if effect for some time, ( I really don't know when they were put in effect) just no one really worried about it. But then approx 4 years ago there was some guy here that lost his trailer with a bobcat on it, crossed the median & killed a mother & her two kids. Roughly about 10-12 months after that they really started hammering everybody & haven't let up.
I did a bunch of work in Kansas all over the state about 2 months ago wiring RedBox DVD units in McDonalds. One thing I noticed on their hiways was the number of DOT trucks around. Everywhere. Funny thing I have noticed though (Mo. & Ks.) is that no one (DOT) is nailing anyone for being over their GCWR, just the truck tag rating & the class A license deal. Whatever. Take care.
 
ElectricBoss said:
Funny thing I have noticed though (Mo. & Ks.) is that no one (DOT) is nailing anyone for being over their GCWR, just the truck tag rating & the class A license deal. Whatever. Take care.
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Here is a quote from Michigan's Truck Driver's Guidebook.

On Page 6 it states,
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
The gross vehicle weight rating is established by the manufacturer and not a lawmaking body. Exceeding the vehicle weight rating is not a violation of any regulations governing the industry.
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So YES, apparently in their eyes the important things are tag ratings, Type of CDL held according to vehicle weight ratings (they DO look at GCWR in order to determine if you are required to have a CDL-A), medical card, weight per axle, weight rating for tires, condition of tires, brakes, safety chains, whether you are exceeding the seasonal weight limits for the road, etc.

Exceeding GVWR and GCWR are not legal violations as long as you are legal in every other aspect.
 
ElectricBoss said:
Ship em up. I think I have a market for em. LOL. Yesterday one of the local KC,Mo. DOT guys was on the rampage. He was pulling guys over left & right & checking everything. Credentials, actual weight on the trailer, combining all the GVWR's, lights, you name it he had it on the list. There was a Marriott hotel by where he was pulling everybody over. Looked like a truck stop by the end of the day. Tons of dropped trailers. One of the contractors I work for got caught up in it & now has to go get a class A license. I have a bit of an advantage living in Kansas. My regular license is good up to 26,001 lbs so I don't have to worry about the different classes as long as I'm under that. I still think my gutted RV is the way to go. :)
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One of those giant toy hauler fivers would be easy.......the back half is already gutted;)
 
RayMich said:
Exceeding GVWR and GCWR are not legal violations as long as you are legal in every other aspect.
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Well there ya go. I never knew that. Explains my curiosities. Makes me wonder though how the insurance world looks at that. Hypothetical question. Let’s say you're hauling a GCWR of 30k (keeping in mind McDonalds got sued for some dope spilling hot coffee in his lap & Cessna got sued because some guy crashed one of their planes while drunk) with a dually or even a 2500. You plow into a minivan. Come up with any scenario, it’s not your fault, but you make a shambles out of the van & the occupants. I wonder if some lawyer would plug into the GCWR. Anyone ever heard of that?
 
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