Slop in Steering Column Joint

[JayTheCPA]

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[79jasper]

When ya get tired of messing with the rag crap, get a Lokar knuckle and be done with the slop....

I think that's similar in design to the borgeson.
Also if the shaft is anything like the rest of the collapsible shafts (like fords) there is a little leaf spring in the slip joint that can wear out and cause slop.

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[THEFERMANATOR]

The round part between the yoke that atatches to the box and the one on the shaft is a rag joint. It looks very similiar to what mine did before I modified it. The stock shaft had metal backings that the rag joint laid in, this shaft appears to not have the metal backings is all, but instead uses a different system to maintain steering in the event of rag joint failure, much like the older shafts used. The borgeson shaft uses universal joints in it.

 

[Big T]

The round part between the yoke that atatches to the box and the one on the shaft is a rag joint. It looks very similiar to what mine did before I modified it. The stock shaft had metal backings that the rag joint laid in, this shaft appears to not have the metal backings is all, but instead uses a different system to maintain steering in the event of rag joint failure, much like the older shafts used. The borgeson shaft uses universal joints in it.

Is the Borgeson superior? If so, is the model listed for '99 to 2008 trucks the one I need for the '99?

I'm pretty sure this steering shaft joint is the source of the last bit of play in the steering on the '99.

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

Borgeson doesn't make one for the 95-00 gmt-400 trucks. The 99-08 is the intermediate shaft for the newer body style. You can get a cherokee shaft and use the lower portion like I did, or others have cut the rag joint off, and used either a borgeson or a flaming river universal type steering joint. It is reccomended to weld the hollow end of the shaft solid so it won't allow the set screws to shrink the shaft down and come loose.

 

[Big T]

What about just buying a Dorman lower shaft for the '94 Cherokee for $187 off Rockauto?

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

You can normally pick them up used for $25-50 in a junkyard. If you're using it for a 95+, then all you need is the lower portion that doesn't normally wear out. If using it for a 94 or older, then I would look to a new one. You can pick them up new for alot less than that dorman. I believe crown carries them for $90 or $100.

 

[Big T]

You can normally pick them up used for $25-50 in a junkyard. If you're using it for a 95+, then all you need is the lower portion that doesn't normally wear out. If using it for a 94 or older, then I would look to a new one. You can pick them up new for alot less than that dorman. I believe crown carries them for $90 or $100.

Rockauto had another model made by Perfect Fit for $90.

 

[Will L.]

Used for 50 vs new for 90 and not having to get it from a junkyard- I think i would do the rock auto thing.

 

[Big T]

This is listed for the '94 Jeep Cherokee:

 

[THEFERMANATOR]

Just make sure it's the early style as I know one member here got one out of a 95, and it was clocked 90 degrees out.

 

[Big T]

This is what they show. Looks different than what I just replaced.

So, do you think that the rag joint replacement part I used to repair my son's '94 lower steering shaft will work on my '99? If it does, then I'd probably go that route. Thinking is that once the replacement is in (i.e. rivets replaced by bolts/nuts), it's real easy and cheap to replace in the future. After driving it last weekend, the remaining play is very minor at this point.

 

[WarWagon]

If the look and measure the same the replacement rag should work. It's cheap enough to try. Just make sure the bolts have locknuts or Red Loctite after fit is verified.