Opinions on McQuay Norris chassis parts?

[Nor-Cal Nick]

I just saw the post you made you had deleted, I just want to say I don't feel we are arguing unless you feel I am to blame for the statement of what you read on Cognito's site, but I don't feel that way:smile5:. I just didn't feel you took the whole complete statement in and I was trying to help. Your post said you understand all of what people and Cognito suggest in re-building the front end with new parts if you have wear showing.

Maybe I can help you in another way and you can use the email address I posted to voice the concern side of what you felt with their product statement. The one thing I look at is this is what we do everyday all day and sometimes what come natural to us doesn't to others and we need to understand that. I try to all the time and was thinking in this issue of where you might be is to maybe help you figure out how to tell if you are a person in need of a new pitman or idler/ how to check so you don't have to take the vague term and not be sure for yourself.

My position is if you are going to point out the terms not being 100% helpful or mis-leading lets help others reading understand what to look for for the best results. Hands down in this after market world of HD trucks it's a battle of fitting stress per each truck user and what they are adding to there trucks. If we as truck owners did not change these trucks from OE form there would not be the need for us to talk about upgrades and I wouldn't have a job and most product would not be even thought of.My point is there are many pivot points on a IFS Chevy HD and the braces can only do so much and as we have seen over and over again these trucks have common issues and either you prepare or wait till a part brakes, how do you prepare? Read of the common issue's to look for other face and reflect to your truck and upgrade idea's.

Again back to helping you find out if you need a new replacement I myself took it for granted that you needed all new parts due to the first thread asking for better than stock. Maybe I should ask how many miles you have on your truck to better help you?

If you are not even wanting to conceder the Cognito upgrade I understand, sorry I just was not 100% clear because what the thread said that was deleted how you think they are a good idea but just feel there product statement needs to be more clear and not so miss leading from what you read. I am agreeing with you on that, my PM and post back to you at first was me feeling you copied half of it and didn't reflect the rest but as reading from what you are saying you did look at that as well, Sorry I just didn't think so.


TurboTahoe, I just don't want you to feel I am against you and your feelings/opinions and want to help. I just took what you posted wrong as I just stated above:cheers2:

 

[Nor-Cal Nick]

I think this may make everyone happy, I had sent a email to Cognito late last week and today they updated there product write up to better help possible customers better:


Off there site > http://cognitomotorsports.com/store/page12.html


" The Cognito Motorsports Solution:
The Mechanical Engineer at Cognito Motorsports has come up with a non traditional design to fix this problem, and it works GREAT! The support kit can be installed on pitman and idler arms showing wear, and actually revive them by limiting the movement in the worn direction! If the joint in the pitman and idler arm is not worn excessively, they probably will not have to be changed (this should be determined by a qualified mechanic). If the pitman and idler arm are excessively worn, it is recommended to replace the pitman and idler arms with factory units and add the Cognito Motorsports Pitman and Idler Arm Support Kit. This innovative design is so unique that it obtained a UTILITY PATENT. The support system works by double capturing the studs that protrude from the pitman and idler arms which the center link connects to. At the same time it still allows the studs to pivot on their own axis which is needed when the steering system is turning. This Cognito Motorsports system provides the support needed to prevent the center link from rocking forward and backward in the vehicle. "

 

[Nor-Cal Nick]

sorry for the double 'better" :mad2:

 

[TurboTahoe]

Hey Nick,

I do appreciate your detailed explanations and very supportive attitude. I admit that I felt that the blame was being placed on me, the potential customer, for finding Cognito's ad language confusing. I also felt that you were implying that I was judging Cognito's ad language by not including the entire paragraph in my criticism of the language. So, you were right on both points.

I wrote the post, and then deleted it, thinking that perhaps I was just being a bit too thin-skinned, and I didn't want to start an argument with one of our vendors. I guess you saw the post before I went back in and nuked it.

Anyway, I appreciate your detailed explanations of how the braces work, and trying to educate all us members. I also especially appreciate your teamwork and friendly attitude, and its why I stay around here. Thanks for reaching out. It is my intent to save up and put braces on, as well as a SuperSteer Idler Pivot (full roller-bearing Idler Pivot). It is my view that by addressing the cause of the excessive wear (e.g. higher steering system loads caused by the oversized tires and wheels) and reducing the turning resistance AND the 'rolling' action of the drag link/center link on the idler and pitman pins, it will solve the problem of premature wear and loose (and DANGEROUS) steering for good.

The Idler Pivot should tighten up the steering, and the braces will help reduce the excess wear from the rolling action on the link... I just need to save up. It's a lot of dough for a workin' guy like me. I had my rig up on the rack, and looks like I need upper ball bearings, new pitman arm, new end links, and so-on, in addition to any upgrades like the Idler Pivot and braces! Wow, that's going to be a lot of cash out the door.

I'm committed to my rig lasting as long as possible... but several hundred bucks is still several hundred bucks.

Thanks again Nick, and I (and I think the rest of us) really appreciate you!

-Rob