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Fuel filter question
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Wrecker
The Oil Geek
My listings for WIX filters show 33376 as available until current stock depleted, and 33976 as an updated version, same for both trucks.
Looks like you may have a new updated version.
Looks like you may have a new updated version.
Brooklyn Tow
9 11 Never Forget
Updated?........Design and/or filtering properties?.......Microns changed?
this is what the 97 has:
http://www.ssdieselsupply.com/images/products/thumb/302--20090410114349.jpg
this is what i am use to:
http://flashoffroad.com/Diesel/FuelFilter/image/filter.jpg
http://www.ssdieselsupply.com/images/products/thumb/302--20090410114349.jpg
this is what i am use to:
http://flashoffroad.com/Diesel/FuelFilter/image/filter.jpg
Wrecker
The Oil Geek
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture and opinion.
Many manufacturers are going to plastic construction from metal pieces on the fuel filters, WIX Donaldson and others.
This may be just a way to build them cheaper and maintain profit margins by the filter manufacturers. I would not expect any micron change.
Brooklyn Tow
9 11 Never Forget
Seems all the old (metal) ones were made by Standyne, Just packaged in different boxes......That said, with the new (plastic) design, if they're made by different manufactures, quality control can go skechy.....
Not to mention that all the filters have gone up around $10.00 in the last year, What's up with that?
Not to mention that all the filters have gone up around $10.00 in the last year, What's up with that?
schiker
Well-Known Member
Seems I remember a thread over on the place that iirc Stanadyne had a patent or some mfg protection for thier fuel manager and that is why no one else made it the same. Baldwin probably came up with the intergral plastic cap /nut as a way to avoid infringement. ???? Might just be cheaper???? Seams up until just a few years ago all were mfg and identified as Stanadyne.
Pepperidge
Member Advocate
My brothers powerstroke filter looks very similar not a bad design IMO
I just switched to the Baldwin filter with the plastic cap. I don't know the micron ratings, Heath recommends the Baldwin so I decided to try it. My veg flows through the stock filter and I was having trouble with flow restriction on the standard type of filter, the Baldwin clearly flows better as I'm no longer having problems. There are quite a few more pleats on the Baldwin so it has more surface area to flow through, though again I'd like to know if the micron rating is the same.
nobby
Old Timey Diesel Guy
Well now that's interesting, just spec'ed out the 33376 and 33976 on the wix website. The new 33976 has a plastic top like the Baldwin unit but here is the surprise the micron rating went down:
33376 - 5 micron
33976 - 14 micron
Wix just lost brownie points for me there looks like I'll be getting around to installing a racor finally. Could not find a micron for the Baldwin BF1201
Cheers
Nobby
33376 - 5 micron
33976 - 14 micron
Wix just lost brownie points for me there looks like I'll be getting around to installing a racor finally. Could not find a micron for the Baldwin BF1201
Cheers
Nobby
Matt Bachand
Depends on the 6.5
10bux? around here they went from 15 bux a pop to 28.99 a pop...... I guess its close to 10 bux... in my head it's double the price, a 30 dollar purchase makes me think about it, a 15 dollar purchace I do not. I guess its all mental.
Seems the new one eliminates the old ring.
Brooklyn Tow
9 11 Never Forget
Well, with that big of a micron change no wonder why the Veg flows better.....but is it worth the reduced filtration?
I'll stick with "ole reliable" as IP's are in the $800.00 - $1000.00 price range and a fuel filter is $30.00..........Then again, you can always go aftermarket, Racor, etc.
I emailed Baldwin and got the specs on the fuel filter, here's the text from the emails:
I'm fine with those specs. I realize many people feel 5 micron is the desired level, but to me this comes close enough and the flow is much improved over the filters I was using previously.
I'm fine with those specs. I realize many people feel 5 micron is the desired level, but to me this comes close enough and the flow is much improved over the filters I was using previously.
Veg_Out
Walking J Designs
I sure would recommend you replumb your system with a separate veggie filter. Heated filter from Frybrid, or VegPower would really be great. You are running the risk of not purging completely the veggie from the filter manager, which can cause some significant trouble down the road.
JMHO
I appreciate the comments! I do have a separate veg filter, a heated racor before the lift pump. We plumbed it this way with the intention of changing it later, but here I am a year later running well so I've chosen to leave it alone.
I'm extremely careful and conservative with heatup and purge cycles. I won't switch to veg until I'm up to operating temp for at least 5 minutes. On purge I generally go at least 5 or 6 miles or 10 minutes, whichever is longer, so I'm pretty confident I'm 100% diesel in the manager and the rest of the fuel system. I don't even bother to switch to veg on trips under 30-35 minutes or so, I really use it for long trips where I can stay on veg for hours at a time.
I am listening, and maybe I'll start thinking about the completely dual fuel systems again.
Matt Bachand
Depends on the 6.5
Good info on the fuel filter. How much of a PSI gain did you notice switching?
Also, Another question about fuel filters. When they start to become clogged up, or full, do they start to filter BETTER due to the fact that even clean fuel starts to have trouble passing?
Also, Another question about fuel filters. When they start to become clogged up, or full, do they start to filter BETTER due to the fact that even clean fuel starts to have trouble passing?
Brooklyn Tow
9 11 Never Forget
Dave, Thanks for the Micron ratings on the Baldwin.....
Matt, YES, when your fuel filter is clogged, there are definate power and divability issues.
You never felt your truck sluggish or a little fishbite, then changed the filter to find all is well again?
Matt, YES, when your fuel filter is clogged, there are definate power and divability issues.
You never felt your truck sluggish or a little fishbite, then changed the filter to find all is well again?
Yes and no. While its true that as a filter accumulates stuff it may filter to a lower threshold, its also true that the pressure drop across the filter increases, stressing the filter media more which can force stuff through depending on how tough the media is.
If you had fuel pressure gauges on both sides of the filter, you'd see them read close to the same on a clean filter. Then as the filter fills up the one on the feed size would either stay the same or increase (depends on style of pump) and the filter output pressure would drop. As this difference in pressure gets larger you know the filter can't flow fuel any more and its time to change it. It would be overkill to have the 2 gauges in our trucks, just seeing enough fuel pressure on the outlet should be enough of an indicator for us, but in an industrial filtering setup you'd have gauges on both sides of the filter.