MechanicallyInclined
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I know ya'll will have some answers and suggestions for me. I will appreciate your time and knowledge in helping me figure this out.
Problem: Part I. -- 1. Driving the truck down the highway, stalled out after 3 miles. Waited ten minutes. Starts up and stalls again in 3 miles.
2. Does not stall when idling or revving it up (parked).
3. While parked, turned on the parking light, truck died in 2-3 seconds. Waited a half an hour, started truck. Ran and idled 1/2 hour. No problem.
Part II. -- When the problem started, I disconnected the negative battery cables for about 30 minutes. Reconnected cables and drove about 100 miles and problems started again.
Part III. -- Put a diagnostic key into the ALDL (after problems started again), No codes set in memory...only flashes 12. BUT, with the key in the diagnostic port, the Service Throttle Soon stays lit on the dash (but does not stay on when the key is out).
Yesterday, truck started once. Idled for about 5 minutes. Died and would not start the rest of the day (Sunday 08-09-09). The next morning, the truck started. Idled about 5 minutes. I put on the Parking Light switch. The truck died within 3 seconds. After about 1/2 hour, I was able to start the truck. I let the truck idle for about a 1/2 hour to charge the batteries. I did not try turning the Parking Lights back on to see if the truck would die. Coincidence...maybe. Only time it ever happened.
I only owned the truck since May 23rd and have only driven it 400-500 miles.
Demographics: tell us about your truck and your ambient conditions:
- Year: 1994
- Truck model and class (ie: c2500) K2500
- Automatic or Standard Automatic
- Mileage: 219,000 (but I was told the engine was replaced about 100,000 miles ago--direct OEM replacement. The tranny was replaced about 80,000 miles ago)
- Replaced parts and mods (IP, PMD, chip/PCM, TM, injectors etc)
I haven't replaced any of these parts. The truck is still new to me.
- Model: ‘S’ or ‘F’ engine, NA or Turbo, EGR? 'F' engine. Turbo. EGR?
- Ambient outside temp: 70 degrees F
- What fuel are you using? Standard gas station diesel.
- What fuel additives are you using? None. Did not know about additives until joining this forum.
- Where are you located? 50 miles SE of Grand Junction, Colorado.
General maintenance:
- Air filter--unknown when replaced.
- Fuel filter--supposedly a few months before I purchased truck.
- CDR Valve?--unknown.
- Coolant – last flushed/replaced at UNKNOWN.
- Oil – synthetic/regular, changed at UNKNOWN.
- Batteries – state of charge, (matched set) replaced at WITHIN PAST YEAR. MATCHED SET.
- Battery cables and grounds (removed, cleaned and tightened): Already done.
- Glow Plugs - how many miles on them? Unknown. What type? Unknown. _
- Injectors - last changed at UNKNOWN.
History: (Describe how the problem first appeared.)
- What were you doing when it happened? See top of thread post.______________
- How was the truck running fine before this problem appeared? Seemed to run fine. But would not really know details and fine points since diesels are new to me.
- Has this problem ever happened before? UNKNOWN prior to purchase.
- Describe any related factors that might be part of the problem. ______________
- Have you checked for DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes)? (Y.N) YES. NO CODES set.
Diagnostics:
1] Starting:
1a] Does the engine start? _________
1b] Does the engine crank over? ________
1c] Are your batteries fully charged? New batteries.
1d] Have you removed, cleaned, and tightened all battery connections? YES. 1e] Does your Wait to Start light come on for a time? How long? Do not have a Wait to Start light.
1f] Does your glow plug light come on? YES. For how long? 5-10 seconds.
1g] Do you see smoke from the exhaust while cranking? What color? A puff of white smoke when it starts. Then disappears, and afterwards, nothing.
2] Fuel Issues (if not running):
2a] Can you hear your lift pump working? For a short time after the engine stops.
2b] Do you get a steady flow of fuel from the water drain (T-handle) ? yes.
2c] Loosen the inlet line from the IP – is fuel coming out (Lift Pump on)? Have not done. Just the air bleeder on the filter, no air, only a steady flow of fuel comes out.
2d] Loosen an injector line and crank the engine - does fuel come out? Have not done.
2e] Do you hear a vacuum (hiss) when you remove the fuel cap? Have not done.
3] PMD / IP Issues
3a] Location of PMD (on pump, on intake, remote mounted) On the IP.
3b] Condition of Extension harness (if used) Vendor or Homemade? Not applicable.
3c] Condition of grounds / ground wires to IP / PMD. Check Harness. Everything is squeaky clean.
3d] PMD Make: Standayne.
3e] PMD Age: Not known.
4] Stalling Issues
4a] Do you experience stalling only when hot? NO.
4b] Does it stall under particular circumstances? (ie hit bump, or on accel)
Smooth road. At any speed. _
4c] Does pouring cool water over the IP seem to help with restarting? Have not tried it.
4d] Is stalling momentary (engine recovers)? After five-ten minutes.
4e] Does SES light come on when engine hiccups? NO.
4f] Does cruise control quit working when engine hiccups? Not known.
4g] Does re-starting seem to reset engine, restoring cruise and power? _________
4h] Changes to dash lights or instruments during stalling events? Not known.
5] Running Issues
5a] On cold start, does upper rad hose get hard before engine warms up? Unknown.
5b] Any bubbles or oil film in coolant overflow tank? NO._______
5c] Any white slime on oil surfaces (dipstick, CDR, oil Fill cap)? NO.
5d] Excessive white smoke from exhaust on cold start? Momentarily.
5e] Excessive black smoke from exhaust under hard acceleration? NO.
6] Performance Issues
6a] Do you have gauges? Standard gauges.
6b] Maximum boost under load? ____________
6c] Have you added a performance PCM (reflash) or Chip? NO.
6d] Have you changed exhaust / downpipe / crossover? NO.
6e] Wastegate – mechanical or vacuum? Unknown.
7] Temperature-related Issues:---NOT APPLICABLE RIGHT NOW.
7a] Single or dual thermostats? ____________
7b] Have you replaced them lately? Manufacturer of replacements? _________
7c] Have you pulled and cleaned Radiator and coolers lately? ____________
7d] Have you replaced the fan clutch? Manufacturer of replacement? ________
7e] (winter) Have you tested your antifreeze? Good to what temp? __________
7f] (winter) Are you using a winter grille cover? ___________
Thanks alot for the help. I'm :mad2:
Problem: Part I. -- 1. Driving the truck down the highway, stalled out after 3 miles. Waited ten minutes. Starts up and stalls again in 3 miles.
2. Does not stall when idling or revving it up (parked).
3. While parked, turned on the parking light, truck died in 2-3 seconds. Waited a half an hour, started truck. Ran and idled 1/2 hour. No problem.
Part II. -- When the problem started, I disconnected the negative battery cables for about 30 minutes. Reconnected cables and drove about 100 miles and problems started again.
Part III. -- Put a diagnostic key into the ALDL (after problems started again), No codes set in memory...only flashes 12. BUT, with the key in the diagnostic port, the Service Throttle Soon stays lit on the dash (but does not stay on when the key is out).
Yesterday, truck started once. Idled for about 5 minutes. Died and would not start the rest of the day (Sunday 08-09-09). The next morning, the truck started. Idled about 5 minutes. I put on the Parking Light switch. The truck died within 3 seconds. After about 1/2 hour, I was able to start the truck. I let the truck idle for about a 1/2 hour to charge the batteries. I did not try turning the Parking Lights back on to see if the truck would die. Coincidence...maybe. Only time it ever happened.
I only owned the truck since May 23rd and have only driven it 400-500 miles.
Demographics: tell us about your truck and your ambient conditions:
- Year: 1994
- Truck model and class (ie: c2500) K2500
- Automatic or Standard Automatic
- Mileage: 219,000 (but I was told the engine was replaced about 100,000 miles ago--direct OEM replacement. The tranny was replaced about 80,000 miles ago)
- Replaced parts and mods (IP, PMD, chip/PCM, TM, injectors etc)
I haven't replaced any of these parts. The truck is still new to me.
- Model: ‘S’ or ‘F’ engine, NA or Turbo, EGR? 'F' engine. Turbo. EGR?
- Ambient outside temp: 70 degrees F
- What fuel are you using? Standard gas station diesel.
- What fuel additives are you using? None. Did not know about additives until joining this forum.
- Where are you located? 50 miles SE of Grand Junction, Colorado.
General maintenance:
- Air filter--unknown when replaced.
- Fuel filter--supposedly a few months before I purchased truck.
- CDR Valve?--unknown.
- Coolant – last flushed/replaced at UNKNOWN.
- Oil – synthetic/regular, changed at UNKNOWN.
- Batteries – state of charge, (matched set) replaced at WITHIN PAST YEAR. MATCHED SET.
- Battery cables and grounds (removed, cleaned and tightened): Already done.
- Glow Plugs - how many miles on them? Unknown. What type? Unknown. _
- Injectors - last changed at UNKNOWN.
History: (Describe how the problem first appeared.)
- What were you doing when it happened? See top of thread post.______________
- How was the truck running fine before this problem appeared? Seemed to run fine. But would not really know details and fine points since diesels are new to me.
- Has this problem ever happened before? UNKNOWN prior to purchase.
- Describe any related factors that might be part of the problem. ______________
- Have you checked for DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes)? (Y.N) YES. NO CODES set.
Diagnostics:
1] Starting:
1a] Does the engine start? _________
1b] Does the engine crank over? ________
1c] Are your batteries fully charged? New batteries.
1d] Have you removed, cleaned, and tightened all battery connections? YES. 1e] Does your Wait to Start light come on for a time? How long? Do not have a Wait to Start light.
1f] Does your glow plug light come on? YES. For how long? 5-10 seconds.
1g] Do you see smoke from the exhaust while cranking? What color? A puff of white smoke when it starts. Then disappears, and afterwards, nothing.
2] Fuel Issues (if not running):
2a] Can you hear your lift pump working? For a short time after the engine stops.
2b] Do you get a steady flow of fuel from the water drain (T-handle) ? yes.
2c] Loosen the inlet line from the IP – is fuel coming out (Lift Pump on)? Have not done. Just the air bleeder on the filter, no air, only a steady flow of fuel comes out.
2d] Loosen an injector line and crank the engine - does fuel come out? Have not done.
2e] Do you hear a vacuum (hiss) when you remove the fuel cap? Have not done.
3] PMD / IP Issues
3a] Location of PMD (on pump, on intake, remote mounted) On the IP.
3b] Condition of Extension harness (if used) Vendor or Homemade? Not applicable.
3c] Condition of grounds / ground wires to IP / PMD. Check Harness. Everything is squeaky clean.
3d] PMD Make: Standayne.
3e] PMD Age: Not known.
4] Stalling Issues
4a] Do you experience stalling only when hot? NO.
4b] Does it stall under particular circumstances? (ie hit bump, or on accel)
Smooth road. At any speed. _
4c] Does pouring cool water over the IP seem to help with restarting? Have not tried it.
4d] Is stalling momentary (engine recovers)? After five-ten minutes.
4e] Does SES light come on when engine hiccups? NO.
4f] Does cruise control quit working when engine hiccups? Not known.
4g] Does re-starting seem to reset engine, restoring cruise and power? _________
4h] Changes to dash lights or instruments during stalling events? Not known.
5] Running Issues
5a] On cold start, does upper rad hose get hard before engine warms up? Unknown.
5b] Any bubbles or oil film in coolant overflow tank? NO._______
5c] Any white slime on oil surfaces (dipstick, CDR, oil Fill cap)? NO.
5d] Excessive white smoke from exhaust on cold start? Momentarily.
5e] Excessive black smoke from exhaust under hard acceleration? NO.
6] Performance Issues
6a] Do you have gauges? Standard gauges.
6b] Maximum boost under load? ____________
6c] Have you added a performance PCM (reflash) or Chip? NO.
6d] Have you changed exhaust / downpipe / crossover? NO.
6e] Wastegate – mechanical or vacuum? Unknown.
7] Temperature-related Issues:---NOT APPLICABLE RIGHT NOW.
7a] Single or dual thermostats? ____________
7b] Have you replaced them lately? Manufacturer of replacements? _________
7c] Have you pulled and cleaned Radiator and coolers lately? ____________
7d] Have you replaced the fan clutch? Manufacturer of replacement? ________
7e] (winter) Have you tested your antifreeze? Good to what temp? __________
7f] (winter) Are you using a winter grille cover? ___________
Thanks alot for the help. I'm :mad2:
