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Classic GM

Turbine Doc

Turbine Doc

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Hi guys,

Wanting to change the look of the place a bit to maybe try and make it more functional, if you will recall on other site; several times we tried to figure out just what we wanted in what I affectionately called our hang out "Jurassic Park" home of the dinosaur Diesels, some did not like that so I stopped using the term as much, so maybe a more acceptable term would be "Classic GM". I just want something catchy we can refer to easily what are your guy's thoughts, oh not to be sexist at all hoping to get some gals in here also, so take "guys" as a generic term.

Anyway now is the time to figure out just what it is in sub forums we would like to see, a lot of work to make it happen, but I still think there is a need to break it down, out trucks pretty much the same since roll off the production line, so I don't see need to go model by model 15-25-3500 section and our engines didn't change much over the year to warrant subsets there either so:

I'm thinking

transmission with subset 4L80E, 4L60E, NV4500, 700R (did I miss any for 6.2/6.5)

Body to cover everything body wise/electrical subsection for 6.2 rides subsection for 6.5 rides

same with suspension

engine area for each with own unique FAQ

anything else, remember we want to make sure our stuff is adequately covered, but also can't be a ton of extra work, maybe we can refine it more later, but already a ton of work to get this site up to speed.

Do we need to consider subset for 4.3/5.7 GM as part of "JP" or Classic GM not many of those still around, but they need a home also I'm thinking.
 
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another trans used for the 6.2 was the TH400 for the older ones. but so far i like where this place is headed :D
 
I dont know I may be the only one but I think less is better
I'd suggest the

6.5 section

6.5 performance section

6.2 section

C/k 88-98 Chassis/electrical/exterior/interior all in one

the 4.3/5.7/7.4 really should just be left for the GM Gasser section already in existence.

There already is a trans section for the hydra-matics

the ZF-6 forum should be changed to included NV4500 also.

This may not be popular among you, but I just dont see the need of basically the 6.5 section of this site, to be a site all to itself within this site. I dont get why some of you guys, refuse to, or are to afraid to join the rest of the site.
 
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x2 for Nicks layout.

... Granted at this point I am not sure there is enough traffic to need the split from normal 6.5 and HP 6.5.
 
Z79outlaw said:
I dont know I may be the only one but I think less is better
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There is some truth to that notion... too many pigeonholes, and it gets hard to find stuff, too.


Z79Outlaw said:
This may not be popular among you, but I just dont see the need of basically the 6.5 section of this site, to be a site all to itself within this site. I dont get why some of you guys, refuse to, or are to afraid to join the rest of the site.
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Because guys with 6.5s don't understand what the DMax guys are talking about most of the time, and the DMax guys get peeved when they have issues and we tell them to check their PMD. Heck, even the GM mechanics don't speak 6.5 !

It isn't that we're afraid to join the rest of the site, but it just don't make sense. It would be like putting the duramaxes in with the ricers.
 
I like the start, things can always be added as needed. To may sections and it is hard to find things. Performance section would be nice though. Glad to be on board, hey Turbine Doc, can we get my member number modified, SHEEEEZZZZ I don't want that number.
 
Z79outlaw said:
the 4.3/5.7/7.4 really should just be left for the GM Gasser section already in existence.

There already is a trans section for the hydra-matics

the ZF-6 forum should be changed to included NV4500 also.

This may not be popular among you, but I just dont see the need of basically the 6.5 section of this site, to be a site all to itself within this site. I dont get why some of you guys, refuse to, or are to afraid to join the rest of the site.
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4.3/5.7 Diesels is what I was referring to, which are even older than the 6.2/6.5s so a fitment for the Classic GM Diesel section.

Reason we need separate section is we choose not to be ignored, Dmax guys most of them have little 6.2/6.5 experience, so you don't get valid responses in that forum, plus there is only 1 flavor of 6.2/6.5 vs 4 different kinds of engine in DMAX world,

They have wholly different fuel systems, performance gains what there is to be had for the older GMs is completely different than Dmax, you don't wanna sort through our issues and we don't want to sort through yours, not a matter of dislike or fear, it's just a completely different truck, your thought would be same as throwing Cummins in with the DMAX posts, about only thing the same in them is they are a Diesel, they run on Diesel fuel and they are in a truck built at a GM facility.
 
I really feel that the diesels should stay separate, just elaborate on the current setup. They are definitely different enough to justify separation.

On the gasser side, just separate the brands, 96-00 Vortecs have similar principles and OBD systems as newer. Plus, the TBIs can relate with the 96-2000 Vortecs. The carburated may be able to relate to the TBIs (Ex:timing chains)

Also, some may have traded up the ranks of gas and can help with knowledge
gained from their old truck. Carburated to TBI to early Vortec to Late Vortec. Heck, this could work on the diesels too. 6.2 to 6.5 to 6.6

I feel the manuals are rare enough as is, and there is some relations between them all. Ex: SBC makes D-max and 6.5TD clutches. Can cover GM hyd clutch systems, etc. Also, make it GM manuals, cover ZF6, NV4500, and the manuals behind 6.2s. The manuals are rare enough that I dont think that they can be separate.

On the auto side, aren't there 4L80Es behind the d-max in the vans? If true, that would be some relation. So that means a 6.5 owner can share knowledge with a d-max owner. and vice versa.

Chevy is IFS, so Drivetrain can be everyone. Axles are related too. back to the d-max van theory. if they were good ol 14 bolt (idk), 6.5ers and d-maxers can help each other.

Interior, not so much, but its GM, so some stuff might be related. IMO, keep together.

Exterior, kinda, but it should stay together. It really helps to label, Like: C/K Hood alignment, instead of just hood alignment.

Wheels. Chevy is awesome in the fact that you can take brand new 8 bolt wheels and put them on an older chevy. So they can stay together.

All this is my opinion and crazy ideas, so take it at that. good luck on the site!
 
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GMG tht's what I'm really after differences where applicable into appropriate areas, and if similarites exist to be covered in common all GM trucks then they could/should go there, reason I'd considered breaking out the predominant trans for older trucks, because at Place the older trucks didn't get much traction so the question came back to main forum at which point we'd have to move it back to trans area, I'm flexible on what we come up with, just want it as user friendly as possible. Last thing I want to see again is a poster saying site is "bloody useless" because they didn't like the layout of things.
 
Gotcha Turbine Doc!:sifone:

I'm wondering about if there is any way to keep stuff together, but if the thread can't get going, we don't post in the engine area, but have a little quick notice, like just put a locked post with the title and the area it is in, and users can investigate and hopefully help. I don't know if this is doable though.

you moderators kinda have to choose the lesser of two evils, huh?
 
I do really want to emphasize the GM Manual Transmissions area, as we handshakers are few and far between, and IMO, we need unity. :yesnod:

(and more membership....we are losing ground to the dually club! I want 45 for NV4500, and its taking a while to get there! :biggrin5::biggrin5:)
 
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