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Brake booster is leaking now...

saratoga

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I've been noticing this weird vibration from the driver's side firewall for a week or so and finally looked around last night. The damn hydroboost is leaking power steering fluid.

Is this thing a PITA to change and would it be better to buy a dealer part?
 
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Holy crap- the dealer wants $549 for that thing!!! :eek:
Napa has one for $230 with a $50 core charge.

This SOB isn't cheap.
 
no they are not cheap. try gmpartsdirect.com for a price. get the part number from a dealer and check there. never used an aftermarket one so no reliability info here.

how bad is it leaking. they all seem to a little.
 
It's actually dripping in between the master cyl and hydroboost... enough to where the ps resivor was low.

At first I thought there was oil dripping out of my breather pipe, but because it loops over the master cyl, the power steering fluid is running down it.
 
It's out of warranty by about 30,000 miles :(

Can anyone verify if this is a good PN- 1780683
Rockauto.com lists it as a new AC-D part (not reman)- $341 and no core.

ACDELCO Part # 1780683 {replaces 15814411 #15814411, 15854059}
BOOSTER,P/B w/BRK HYD PWR DISC(JH6) or BRK HYD PWR DISC(JH7)
 
It's out of warranty by about 30,000 miles :(

Can anyone verify if this is a good PN- 1780683
Rockauto.com lists it as a new AC-D part (not reman)- $341 and no core.

ACDELCO Part # 1780683 {replaces 15814411 #15814411, 15854059}
BOOSTER,P/B w/BRK HYD PWR DISC(JH6) or BRK HYD PWR DISC(JH7)

I know it's prolly a little late, but I had the same trouble on the '94, it leaked from the weep hole between the MC and booster. I bought a $35.00 seal kit from GM and fixed it. It took me 2 kits though because I didn't pay close enough attention when I put it back together and cut the big seal that was leaking to begin with. Then I figured out I didn't even have to remove the booster to change that seal, it could be changed just removing the MC and pulling the plunger rod and star shaped keeper out. The edge of the seal has to be worked around the piston with a screwdriver to avoid cutting it, but it can be done in an hour or less. I don't know if the newer ones are built the same or not, just a heads up if anyone else experiences this. Mike
 
I know it's prolly a little late, but I had the same trouble on the '94, it leaked from the weep hole between the MC and booster. I bought a $35.00 seal kit from GM and fixed it. It took me 2 kits though because I didn't pay close enough attention when I put it back together and cut the big seal that was leaking to begin with. Then I figured out I didn't even have to remove the booster to change that seal, it could be changed just removing the MC and pulling the plunger rod and star shaped keeper out. The edge of the seal has to be worked around the piston with a screwdriver to avoid cutting it, but it can be done in an hour or less. I don't know if the newer ones are built the same or not, just a heads up if anyone else experiences this. Mike

and you didn't scratch the piston or the wall?? I poked mine out with wooden barbequ stick on the work bench. But!, I seperated the cover seal and the piston is now hanging there!! I would have to get ruff with it to get it back in I'm afraid so it's still hanging. I thought it would pull out of the other half but seems attached. The fire wall seal is not leaking but I can't get to those seals anyway. Help! 714-915-1364
 
and you didn't scratch the piston or the wall?? I poked mine out with wooden barbequ stick on the work bench. But!, I seperated the cover seal and the piston is now hanging there!! I would have to get ruff with it to get it back in I'm afraid so it's still hanging. I thought it would pull out of the other half but seems attached. The fire wall seal is not leaking but I can't get to those seals anyway. Help! 714-915-1364
No, I didn't scratch anything because I never actually inserted the screwdriver into the bore or removed the booster from the truck. I put slight pressure on the piston with the palm of one hand and used the flat side of a screwdriver to press the seal down working around the circumference until the seal was completely started in the bore and then pushed it the rest of the way in by hand. This was a number of years ago and it still does not leak. The rest of the seal kit was wasted because I only replaced the seal on the piston, but if doing it this way saved me 350.00 was it really wasted? Seems like I tried taking mine apart just like you did and mine wouldn't come apart either. I think it just pushes back together, but I can't remember for sure. The aluminum looking canister at the top is a nitrogen acumilator if I remember right. This allows you a way to get the truck stopped if the engine should quit while you are travelling down the road. Seems like that is what keeps you from taking the booster apart. Anyway. you shouldn't need anything other than the piston seal, if you can just get it to squeeze back together. Mike
 
No, I didn't scratch anything because I never actually inserted the screwdriver into the bore or removed the booster from the truck. I put slight pressure on the piston with the palm of one hand and used the flat side of a screwdriver to press the seal down working around the circumference until the seal was completely started in the bore and then pushed it the rest of the way in by hand. This was a number of years ago and it still does not leak. The rest of the seal kit was wasted because I only replaced the seal on the piston, but if doing it this way saved me 350.00 was it really wasted? Seems like I tried taking mine apart just like you did and mine wouldn't come apart either. I think it just pushes back together, but I can't remember for sure. The aluminum looking canister at the top is a nitrogen acumilator if I remember right. This allows you a way to get the truck stopped if the engine should quit while you are travelling down the road. Seems like that is what keeps you from taking the booster apart. Anyway. you shouldn't need anything other than the piston seal, if you can just get it to squeeze back together. Mike

I agree, but it's still not clear what you did...you must have pushed the piston back from the front, deep inside the bore, did the seal, [use a small wooden scewer!], then pedal pressured it back in to place pushing the seal into the groove. is that it?
 
I agree, but it's still not clear what you did...you must have pushed the piston back from the front, deep inside the bore, did the seal, [use a small wooden scewer!], then pedal pressured it back in to place pushing the seal into the groove. is that it?
Nope, removed the MC, then pushed the piston back enough to remove the star shaped retainer plate at the front, it can be turned sideways in the bore and removed. Then the piston will come out the front of the booster by applying a little pressure to the brake pedal, but just a little. The booster is still mounted to the firewall at this point and will not be removed or the outer case split in half. You can change the seal and reverse the procedure for putting the piston back in the booster. While holding the piston with one hand, use the flat side of a medium or large flat screwdriver to compress the lip of the seal and use light pressure on the piston to help the seal start into the bore. Insert the seal into the bore by working your way around the piston's circumference with the screwdriver, being careful to not stab or otherwise cut the lip of the seal. You will know when the seal has beed compressed and started in the bore because the piston will just slide in with a minimal amount of hand applied pressure on the front end of the piston. It's been 5-7 years since I did this and I've slept since then, so that's all I can remember about it. I've only had to reseal mine and haven't worked on another one before or since. I did it once and cut the seal putting it back in and I think I did it that time by splitting the booster case in half like I'm understanding you did. Seems like there is an internal groove in the bore that cuts the seal when you install it from the rear. That's why when I redid it, I went at it from the front, where the MC bolts on, that way the seal starts out on the correct side of that groove and has almost no chance of being cut unless you do it while trying to start the seal in the bore. Plus I was lazy and refused to unbolt all of that junk to take the booster off the truck again. Leaving it mounted to the firewall gives you a strong "work bench" to hold it securely while you work. Mike
 
Nope, removed the MC, then pushed the piston back enough to remove the star shaped retainer plate at the front, it can be turned sideways in the bore and removed. Then the piston will come out the front of the booster by applying a little pressure to the brake pedal, but just a little. The booster is still mounted to the firewall at this point and will not be removed or the outer case split in half. You can change the seal and reverse the procedure for putting the piston back in the booster. While holding the piston with one hand, use the flat side of a medium or large flat screwdriver to compress the lip of the seal and use light pressure on the piston to help the seal start into the bore. Insert the seal into the bore by working your way around the piston's circumference with the screwdriver, being careful to not stab or otherwise cut the lip of the seal. You will know when the seal has beed compressed and started in the bore because the piston will just slide in with a minimal amount of hand applied pressure on the front end of the piston. It's been 5-7 years since I did this and I've slept since then, so that's all I can remember about it. I've only had to reseal mine and haven't worked on another one before or since. I did it once and cut the seal putting it back in and I think I did it that time by splitting the booster case in half like I'm understanding you did. Seems like there is an internal groove in the bore that cuts the seal when you install it from the rear. That's why when I redid it, I went at it from the front, where the MC bolts on, that way the seal starts out on the correct side of that groove and has almost no chance of being cut unless you do it while trying to start the seal in the bore. Plus I was lazy and refused to unbolt all of that junk to take the booster off the truck again. Leaving it mounted to the firewall gives you a strong "work bench" to hold it securely while you work. Mike

very interesting, I think next time i'll take the star off, it just fell off the way i did it with no more piston pressure on it. Then i'll do like you say and bring the piston down all the way off the seal...no then it will be in the way. so I see why you have to dig on the sides. My way, I was lucky, is very simple. dig the seal out with a wooden small barbeque skewer. pops right out no chance of scratches. wipe the black out of the groove- the deteriorating seal, put new one in by hand, a bit harder, put back together. a piece of plastic pipe square on one end is a marvelous free special tool... to put in star.
 
See, I told you it had been a while. For some reason, I was thinking the seal was on the piston and not in a groove in the bore. That's why you were having trouble understanding what I was saying. Did you get it fixed? That's all that counts. I just put the star in by hand, it practically falls in place once you get it close. Mike
 
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