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I've Had It With Apple

Mad Maxx

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My MacBook broke again Yesterday. The Hard Drive went. That makes it my 6th Mac since June '07. I keep Burning Up the HD's.

I can't stand it anymore. I am convinced they are the WORST Laptops out there.

Luckilly they were all Replaced under Warranty, but still, I Lost all my Info I had on them.

Now I'm back to a "Normal" Laptop. I got a New Sony Vaio. It was the Biggest, Baddest one they had at Best Buy. Way Overkill for what I need it for, so that's good. Hopefully I can get over a Year out of it, and I'll be happy.
 
I still have my old Vaio, James... it's a P3-750, which tells ya something. The battery is no good anymore, and it lasts about 20 minutes without being plugged in, but it still works.

Hey, you wanna star in one of those "I'm a Mac - I'm a PC" commercials? LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYOR8vLgE8
 
Good. That makes me feel better that yours has lasted you a while.

Yea, that whole "Oh, everything just Works with a Mac" thing is BS. NOTHING "just Works" with a Mac.

Good luck trying to find a Printer that'll Work CORRECTLY with a Mac.

Things will Work with a Mac AFTER you Download all the Converters you need, Buy the Extra Interfaces and stuff that you need, yea, then it'll all Work.
 
I've got to show this thread to my son. He wants a Mac in the worst way since our HP laptop took a dump. Man, what a piece of crap the HP was. Never again.
 
I was exactly like that. My 2 previous Laptops before the Mac were HP's. I got 4 Years out of them, between the 2. Basically 2 Years out of each.

I got the Mac in June '07, the HD went in the First 2 Months. Sent it out, got it back, HD went in 2 Months again. Sent it out, got it back, HD went in 4-5 Months. Took it back, got a BNIB Laptop due to the 3x it Breaks you get a New one Law. New one was better. Faster Processor, bigger HD, but same Model. HD went 2x on the New one, lasted about 6 Months or so each time. And I got 1/2 a Crash in between too.
 
I know HP laptops, guys; here's the scoop...

If you're buying them and spending less than you would on a Vaio, you're getting what you pay for.

HP has 2 streams of laptops - the consumer version and the business version. Both streams go from cheap to expensive, and the quality goes up with price.

The cheapest business one is about as solid as the expensive consumer ones... but with fewer bells and whistles, and about the same price. That's why people tend to buy the consumer ones - you get a LOT of bells and whistles for not much $$. Same with Dell. They're a much better deal than the Toshiba or Sony (which I really like!).

But yeah, the cheap ones are crap. Hey- they're just doing the old free-enterprise thing, trying to make money. If they could make quality stuff for that price, they probably would, but they can't.

Think about Toyota or Honda vs GM or Ford.

American automakers build good stuff too, but not for the cheap prices... you buy a cheap GM car, you're better off with a comparably-priced Honda. The quality is not even in the same ballpark. Now, a Caddy CTS, that's another story.

Anyway, the moral is, there is no free lunch when it comes to laptops. Price is a pretty good indicator.
 
Well let me tell you something. Your HD is still the same junk in all the pc's and macs. Most of the parts are the same now in both Mac and PC I am currently wiping and reinstalling Winblows again on my PC. It has crashed and been installed 6 times this year alone. I only use the PC for Quickbooks to work remotely to my office and a couple of games. I hate Winblows..

My Mac is still running after several years. I just upgraded to OS X Leopard last week. The only problem I had was I forgot to stop my Cloning software and it tried to clone the old OS on a different drive over the top of the new OS. User error not Mac.

Your HD could prob could be a cooling issue but I know a lot of Mac users with no problems. Its just like Problem Child's Dmax he has probs but the rest of us have a great truck.

I will only ever have a Winblows PC because I cannot afford to get a new intel based Mac. My G5 is the best machine I have ever owned...

Sorry for the rant just don't give up on the Mac because of a hardware issue...
 
Well let me tell you something. Your HD is still the same junk in all the pc's and macs. Most of the parts are the same now in both Mac and PC I am currently wiping and reinstalling Winblows again on my PC. It has crashed and been installed 6 times this year alone. I only use the PC for Quickbooks to work remotely to my office and a couple of games. I hate Winblows..

My Mac is still running after several years. I just upgraded to OS X Leopard last week. The only problem I had was I forgot to stop my Cloning software and it tried to clone the old OS on a different drive over the top of the new OS. User error not Mac.

Your HD could prob could be a cooling issue but I know a lot of Mac users with no problems. Its just like Problem Child's Dmax he has probs but the rest of us have a great truck.

I will only ever have a Winblows PC because I cannot afford to get a new intel based Mac. My G5 is the best machine I have ever owned...

Sorry for the rant just don't give up on the Mac because of a hardware issue...

Def wasn't a Cooling Issue. The Fans rarly kicked into High Gear. It barely ever got Warm.
 
3 of my techs were Mac fiends when they were hired... none are, now. Macs are nice pieces of equipment, but they are so darn hard to work on; the proprietary stuff is a real hassle some days.

Clark is right when he says the Hard drives are likely the same off the shelf crap that the PCs use, but that still doesn't explain the high rate of failure in your case. You really need to investigate some decent external storage; I use a couple 1 TB USB drives for all my data storage - one on an NAS mirror, one that I manually back up to daily.

Losing your stuff really sucks.
 
I agree I have several external drives that I use for backup. I have tape drives also. I just spent all day yesterday entering in information into quickbooks because of my Winblows machine died again. Hardware is hardware it dies Mac, HP, Dell, GM and so forth. I do believe that its your laptop killing drives. I know that your Mac has Time Machine(backup) on it and I know it works great. Just get and external drive or if you have another computer use it as a file server and let Time Machine back all your info. So if it happens again you get you info back..
 
I just had to buy a new one also. Killed my 5 year old Dell a few weeks back with SQL Server and Visual Studio running at the same time doing school projects. It was running about a 2G page file at the time going slower than molasses with the hard drive grinding away. Vista, 1G of memory and resource intensive applications do not a friend hard drive make.

Ended up getting a ThinkPad for a pretty reasonable price using the discount we get through Lenovo from work. It's a business end computer (read: not-so-flashy), but I wanted something that would last a few years. We put the ones at work through hell and they keep on running- usually they last about 4-5 years in that environment, so I figured I'd give it a whirl.
 
I am the IT guy at work and we usually buy the Lenovos they are a solid machine. I can't convince my boss to go Mac...
 
I can't stand Lenovos, but really, for the pricepoint vs performance, they're very solid work machines. They still have too many little quirky proprietary issues for me, like RAM limits and addressing issues...
 
I can't stand Lenovos, but really, for the pricepoint vs performance, they're very solid work machines. They still have too many little quirky proprietary issues for me, like RAM limits and addressing issues...

I agree but for the price and perf and what my field guys do they are fantastic. My guys do email and Excel. $595 for a new machine they do just fine... I want a Macbook Pro but I can't get my boss to fork out for one...
 
They're not my favorite either.
Aside from a Panasonic Toughbook ($$$), I don't know of too many other laptops that will tolerate the abuse that the ThinkPads can and still remain operational.
 
I still prefer my Dell 3Ghz 9lb Laptop.....It is running pretty strong after 5 years and no failures.
 
My company supplied me with a HP Pavilion dv7-1175. So far it is a ok notebook and even has a blue ray Dvd drive
 
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