Head gasket time...

[DEERE3594]

Well I got antifreeze in my oil. Alot, 2 or 3 gallons in 30 miles. Is it worth doing them with 207,000k on the clock? New motor time? New "old" truck time? New new truck time? Ive 6.5 Ive had dollors me to death, being in debt with mdical bills this is all I need. I need my ranch truck :mad2::mad2::mad2:

 

[iamdave0887]

headgasket's aren't too bad really. you've got room to work as opposed to some i've done(Cadillac Northstar comes to mind). just make sure all that coolant in the oil hsan't wiped out the main bearings. if it has then your in big trouble.

Just swap them out get new TTY headbolts or go with ARP headstuds if you prefer them.

It's not that bad of a job, there are worse jobs to do.

Overall the truck's served you well. if you try selling it w/ blown headgakets you'll probably get next to nothing for it as that can scare people away.

 

[DEERE3594]

is it worth it though? on gasser when i get over 200k and somthing like this happens i usually put a new long block in. is that a waste?

 

[iamdave0887]

is it worth it though? on gasser when i get over 200k and somthing like this happens i usually put a new long block in. is that a waste?

I'd check make sure the blocks has no cracks in it. if the block is fine and the heads are fine just swap out the headgaskets and continue using the ol girl.

Last quote i gave a guy for a headgasket on a 4 cyl car was $550 out the door. that's including a new headgasket a new TTY headbolt set, machine shop labor, and removal/install labor. i don't' price gouge people. i do the job with just enough to make a little bit of profit(~$100 or so).

Figure out prices and if you've got a buddy willing to help pay him in a few beers and spend the weekend wrenching to get her done. The longest wait on headgasket jobs for me and my buddy is the machine shop downtime. while the head(s) are at the shop everything else gets done and it's ready to bolt back together once the head(s) are back in our hands.

Justin if you weren't so far away i'd offer to help ya.

 

[Acesneights1]

That much anti freeze in the oil I would question the block. Got a nice 2000 K3500 for sale cheap. I can pick you up at Bradley airport....You can swap your duallies on to it.

 

[HighSierra86]

I found head gaskets to not be that bad either, just time consuming. Dosent make sense to me to get another truck over a some bad gaskets. You may buy another new "old" truck and have the same problem. At least if you fix this one, you know the truck and what has been done to it. Dont give up hope my friend!!

 

[Acesneights1]

I don't want to be the pessimist, but with tat much coolant I'd say minimum cracked heads, more likely cracked block but for your sake I hope I'm wrong. If it's loosing coolant that badly I would pull all the glow plugs and pressurize the rad. Should be able to figure out which cyl. Then pull that head and see what's going on.

 

[Acesneights1]

6.5 god....hear my prayer...for justins sake, let it be drivers side head..

 

[Matt Bachand]

Any heavy pulling or higher than normal temps before you realized?

 

[Missy Good Wench]

Was the cooling system pressurizing and blowing over the top?? If no pressure but loads of coolant in the oil then the culprit could be a cracked main web thats gone deep and found water.

Head gaskets will see loads of white smoke out the back and blowing coolant out the overflow hose.

My DaHoooley started losing coolant and had zero pressure in the cooling system even when hot.

Cracked the number 4 main saddle up into the number 6 and 8 cylinders. Game over ( oil squirt block 1997 transplant)

Keep us posted

MGW

 

[vail426]

When my head gaskets let go, I had NO water in the oil. I have a feeling you have other issues.

 

[DEERE3594]

That much anti freeze in the oil I would question the block. Got a nice 2000 K3500 for sale cheap. I can pick you up at Bradley airport....You can swap your duallies on to it.

Wish it was a crew cab

Any heavy pulling or higher than normal temps before you realized?

I have pulled a 2 horse bumper pull and 2 hay wagons. Drove 100 or so miles emtpy and then the noticed it.. Never run hot when towing

Was the cooling system pressurizing and blowing over the top?? If no pressure but loads of coolant in the oil then the culprit could be a cracked main web thats gone deep and found water.
nothing blowing out of the over flow..

Head gaskets will see loads of white smoke out the back and blowing coolant out the overflow hose.
have white smoke now, didnt yesterday...
My DaHoooley started losing coolant and had zero pressure in the cooling system even when hot.

Cracked the number 4 main saddle up into the number 6 and 8 cylinders. Game over ( oil squirt block 1997 transplant)

Keep us posted

MGW

I also posted before about my blow by, it looks like a forest fire now
Also my CDR is puking out alot of crap.. The tube that runs from the CDR to the air inlet is half plugged with "sludge"

 

[bison]

Yea,it looks like you're in for some serious wrenching.

Say,whats that frisian horse doing in your sig?

 

[Missy Good Wench]

With no pressure in the cooling system this sounds like a failed block.

If the truck has had a later engine installed (oil squirt block) the failure could likely be just like my engine.

A failed main saddle that cracked up into a cylinder/s

A blown gasket will blow tons of white smoke and overheat quickly as well as over pressure the cooling system.

Good luck and keep us posted.

MGW

 

[chrisk1500]

Sounds awfully familiar....similar symptoms to the last 6.5 that grenaded on me...(block cracked)...

Decision time...

 

[dangerousdave]

I don't want to be the pessimist, but with tat much coolant I'd say minimum cracked heads, more likely cracked block but for your sake I hope I'm wrong. If it's loosing coolant that badly I would pull all the glow plugs and pressurize the rad. Should be able to figure out which cyl. Then pull that head and see what's going on.

[COLOR="Navy[B]"]"Was the cooling system pressurizing and blowing over the top?? If no pressure but loads of coolant in the oil then the culprit could be a cracked main web thats gone deep and found water." MGW 07-22-2009 10:28 PM[/B][/COLOR]

To sum up, pull the glow plugs, drop the oil pan. fill and pressurize the radiator / cooling sustem. If it's a cylid=nder, it should fill up with water, if its a bearing web or block crack NOT into a cylinder, it will leak out the bottom...

Is that a good procedure?

Should he fill it with boiling water, or at least hot water, for the pressure test?

 

[DEERE3594]

So it seems as though I should be looking for a new motor? I dont want to spend hours and hours checking this one over (call me lazy ):h )

Justin if you weren't so far away i'd offer to help ya.

Plenty of coold beer here, come on down :thumbsup:

Yea,it looks like you're in for some serious wrenching.

Say,whats that frisian horse doing in your sig?

Thats my wife stallion, shes got a couple of them and some morgans :thumbsup:

 

[Acesneights1]

buy an old school bus and yank the motor out. They go cheap sometimes(sorry Kev).

 

[Dieseldad97]

Hey Justin, why not PM "Big Josh" on this site and see what's up with the cheap 6.5 surb. he is thinking about buying. Maybe he'll be willing to help you out? Worth a shot...:thinkerg:

 

[DEERE3594]

Earlier I had it running it was at normal temp idling for over an hour and it had white smoke. Now its at operating temp with no white smoke... whats going on??