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had to pull out an 06 LBZ truck today with my sonoma...

0rion

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it was mine. :mad2: I gotta get these stock tires off the truck...they're terrible traction wise. I parked my truck on one side of my property next to the woods while I had some guys cut a tree down. It was mess and mushy over there but I figured no big deal....I'll just put it in 4 wheel drive and back out of it when they're done. Wrong. It was stuck pretty good. Had to go get my ZR2 Sonoma and have the wife drive it and pull me out. Probably gonna be a while before I stop hearing it from her. :nonod: I'm hoping it's just the tires and once I put some good mud tires on there it muds better than it does now. I know that'll fix it for the most part but the truck is pretty heavy and is gonna sink like a rock.
How's your guys experience in the mud with these trucks? My Sonoma is pretty bad ass in the mud but it's light with a short wheel base, lifted, and rocking Goodyear mud wranglers.
 
If you have the stock 245's on it's like a drags slicks in a mud bog. I don't go "Mudding", but, I've had to use 4x4 in the mud (yard, our property, etc) to get me out of some situations without a problem.
 
Weight is pretty much the killer and the end all be all frankly....mud tires help but weight is the ultimate factor.....that said...mud tires on heavy trucks are ten times better than the same truck without them.....I SAY HEAVY TRUCKS particularly not only because that's what you asked but also...as alluded to above are at a disadvantage.....floatation/ground clearance is what you need basically....and heavy means deeper ruts (more sinking) simply put.....and to get a heavier object moving...you need more friction (traction)....so mud-tires on your heavy truck are a good investment and will help you significantly in your described conditions where you use the truck...so long as it is not real bad (but that is somewhat subjective)....however....getting back to the beginning.....smaller/lighter trucks are always better everything being equal (i.e. the terrain and similar tires (including size), etc. So...hoping I didn't ramble and confuse....your tires on the truck should solve your problem...and a lift and bigger tires sure help too...lol:D
 
yeah, I kinda figured the weight was going to be a huge disadvantage. I don't do a lot of mudding really and never do it just for the fun of it. Usually I'm taking my truck down trails to get to hunting spots and stuff like that. I know the places to steer clear of and most everything else will be slop on top and rocks on bottom so as long as I can get the pumpkin and control arm clearance so it doesn't bottom out some good tires will go a long way. I agree with you 8100....I might as well have been running drag radials on there. No traction what so ever.
 
The problem is that those stock 245's are like friggen donuts and it'll get stuck on wet grass.

I've had good luck with all terrains.
 

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I buried my truck in sugar sand a couple of months ago... they're so nose heavy it just plows the front end into the ground and game over. I've got a 2wd, but can usually manage going in reverse; this time I knew there would be trouble when the front wheels went off the pavement and it just stopped even with the rear wheels still on the concrete with plenty of traction.

A guy in an older Land Cruiser pulled me out. As soon as the strap had some tension on it so the front end wouldn't sink, I was able to crawl right out of the sand.
 
Well, neither one of my trucks are worth a hoot in mud as far as i am concerned. The trucks are just too heavy. My RCLB has 285's on it in Cooper Discovery M/S flavor and even that hasnt helped much. My ECSB was loaded with firewood one day at a friends place in about 3-4" of mud, the pile just sat and spun in 2X4, i pulled the ole lever and the lump still sat there spinning. I ended up hammering the go-pedal and letting the mud fly to keep the tires clean just so i could get back onto solid ground again. After off roading my ole Ford for yrs with 38"swampers these heavy trucks dont have a chance in mud. Now snow on the other hand, damn bulldozer is what they become.
 
It may go without saying to some, but when a situation approaches where you MAY need 4x4. Engage it BEFORE you attempt. Thats why you have it.
 
It'll be a while before I really trust it in mud. Some of the places I go hunt are very remote and it'd take me forever to walk out of there and find someone to pull me out. I have a come along but not sure how much good that would really do me and the problem I have with a winch is you can only pull yourself forward with it which does you no good if you're wanting to go backwards.
 
0rion said:
It'll be a while before I really trust it in mud. Some of the places I go hunt are very remote and it'd take me forever to walk out of there and find someone to pull me out. I have a come along but not sure how much good that would really do me and the problem I have with a winch is you can only pull yourself forward with it which does you no good if you're wanting to go backwards.
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I guess I must be getting lucky. I only run the pizza cutters in the winter and have yet to get hung up in the snow. I have been close a few times but never needed assistance to get out.
Orion not sure what type of winch you have but they do make a mount that slips in to your receiver.

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you should see my fleet in mud, or wet grass for that matter. the 96 diesel is the saddest. it was sitting on frozen buffalo grass, and the front had sank down an inch or two the night before, when it was thawed, so it took a lot of rocking to get it out.

my 91 gas does the best, since it has some all terrains comparable to BF Goodrich All Terrain T/As out the back, and has that wee lil ol v-6. I run stock rubber size on them all.

I still maintain that a manual does better off road, since you are in complete control of the torque output. Isnt it true that too much torque will cause you to break loose easier?

But to stay on topic, I would venture to guess that a good set of mud terrains will help immensely. My friend that had a 07 CCSB PSD auto 4x4 said it was night and day difference when he bought his mud terrains to replace his all terrains.

Good luck!
 
good tires will be your biggest benefit, and since ground clearance isnt your issue a traction control device (locker or limited slip) for your rear axle would be the only other thing i would consider. wider tires will help limit the amount of sinking that you do.

i use my 84 k30 in rocks/mud/snow all the time and go with a group of mostly jeeps/toyotas everywhere, only issue i've had has been low ground clearance (stock height) or when i broke my tie rod. the truck is sitting on 35x14.50 pit bull tires, even with the 454 under the hood the truck floats on the snow and the thicker mud better than any other rig i've encountered. the really thin and soupy mud, not much that can help you there.
 
Mickey Thompson MTZ if you're getting a mud tire. I can tear right through a muddy field.....they kick butt.
 
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