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Getting code 36.

wscott

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I am getting code 36. I replaced my pmd and cleared codes. When I started it back up it started rough and SES light came back on after running a few minutes with same code. It will run with white smoke if I keep my foot on throttle but if I take my foot off it just dies. It did the same thing with last pmd. I am at a lost of what else I need to check.
 
Open the air bleed screw on top of the fuel filter manager and check for air. A 1/4" clear plastic tube can be put in place of the return tube on the front of the IP to check for air in fuel.

BTW, welcome to TTS
 
Thanks man. I checked and there was not any air in there. It still does the same thing it is hard to start and when it does I have to keep my foot on the throttle or it wilk die.
 
Drain some fuel from the water drain, (little T) on the thermostat housing with a hose attached, into a clear bottle. look for water drops. You may have to let it settle for a few hours.
 
Some remove the line after the lift pump and pump it out. You may have to run 12v to the LP. The tank should be dropped and cleaned out, inspect the sock. It's a good idea to remove the sock and put an extra filter before the LP.
 
Thank you for your help . I am now getting code 99 and 84. 84 is not in my book so I am not sure what that is.
 
Found 'em on another site. Here's a set if anyone wants 'em.

'96 - up 6.5L diesel OBD-II DTC list


P0101 -- Mass Air Flow (MAF) System Performance
P0102 -- MAF Sensor Circuit Low Frequency
P0103 -- MAF Sensor Circuit High Frequency
P0112 -- Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0113 -- IAT Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0117 -- Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0118 -- ECT Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0123 -- Accelerator Pedal Position (APP) Sensor 1 Circuit Performance
P0122 -- APP Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage
P0123 -- APP Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage
P0126 -- Insufficient ECT for Stable Operation
P0182 -- Fuel Temperature Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0183 -- Fuel Temperature Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0215 -- Engine Shut-Off Control Circuit
P0216 -- Injection Timing Control Circuit
P0219 -- Engine Over-speed Condition
P0220 -- APP Sensor 2 Circuit
P0221 -- APP Sensor 2 Circuit Performance
P0222 -- APP Sensor 2 Circuit Low Voltage
P0223 -- APP Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage
P0225 -- APP Sensor 3 Circuit
P0226 -- APP Sensor 3 Circuit Performance
P0227 -- APP Sensor 3 Circuit Low Voltage
P0228 -- APP Sensor 3 Circuit High Voltage
P0231 -- Fuel Pump Feedback Circuit Low Voltage
P0236 -- Turbocharger Boost System
P0237 -- Turbo Boost Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0238 -- Turbo Boost Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0251 -- Injection Pump Cam System
P0263 -- Cylinder 1 Balance System
P0266 -- Cylinder 2 Balance System
P0269 -- Cylinder 3 Balance System
P0272 -- Cylinder 4 Balance System
P0275 -- Cylinder 5 Balance System
P0278 -- Cylinder 6 Balance System
P0281 -- Cylinder 7 Balance System
P0284 -- Cylinder 8 Balance System
P0300 -- Engine Misfire Detected
P0301 -- Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected
P0302 -- Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
P0303 -- Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
P0304 -- Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
P0305 -- Cylinder 5 Misfire Detected
P0306 -- Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected
P0307 -- Cylinder 7 Misfire Detected
P0308 -- Cylinder 8 Misfire Detected
P0335 -- Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor Circuit
P0370 -- Timing Reference High Resolution
P0380 -- Glow Plug Circuit Performance
P0400 -- Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Flow Malfunction
P0401 -- EGR Flow Insufficient
P0402 -- EGR Flow Excessive
P0404 -- EGR System Performance
P0405 -- EGR Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
P0406 -- EGR Sensor Circuit High Voltage
P0501 -- Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit (VSS)
P0567 -- Cruise Resume Circuit
P0568 -- Cruise Set Circuit
P0571 -- Cruise Brake Switch Circuit
P0601 -- Internal Control Module Memory
P0602 -- Control Module Programming
P0604 -- Control Module RAM Check Sum
P0606 -- PCM Internal Communications Interrupted
P1125 -- Accelerator Pedal Position System
P1191 -- Intake Air Duct Leak
P1214 -- Injection Pump Timing Offset
P1216 -- Fuel Solenoid Response Time Short
P1217 -- Fuel Solenoid Response Time Long
P1218 -- Injection Pump Calibration Circuit
P1406 -- EGR Valve Position
P1409 -- EGR Vacuum System Leak
P1621 -- EEPROM Write
P1626 -- Vehicle Theft Deterrent (VTD) Controller Serial Data Circuit
P1627 -- A/D Performance
P1630 -- Theft Deterrent PCM in Learn Mode
P1631 -- Theft Deterrent Password Incorrect
P1635 -- 5 Volt Reference Low
P1641 -- Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Control Circuit
P1643 -- Wait To Start Lamp Control Circuit
P1653 -- EGR Vent Solenoid Control Circuit
P1654 -- Service Throttle Soon Lamp Control Circuit
P1655 -- EGR Solenoid Control Circuit
P1656 -- Wastegate Solenoid Control Circuit
U1026 -- Loss of ATC Class 2 Communication
 
First off the above advice on grounds is where to start. Trans dipstick is where the ECM grounds and usually has issues. Next add a ground strap or wire from the frame to the engine and the body to the engine. Then check the positive cables and connections. the positive cables corrode internally. Then check fuses by pulling them out and cleaning the tarnish off them. Test both batteries and the alternator.

Code 84 is clearly OBD1... 1994 or 1995.

Code 84 Accelerator Pedal Position (APP) Circuit Fault

Code 99 Accel Pedal Position (APP) 2.5 Volt Reference Fault

Code 36 Injection Pulse Width Error (Response Time Long)

I would suggest the above power and ground repairs as the part is stupid expensive. You can unplug the APP, throttle pedal, and clean the contacts. About 6" from the ECM behind the dash/glove box is a second connector that goes from the ECM plugs to this dedicated wire run to the APP. You may want to watch all 3 TPS voltages on the APP with a scan tool or USB OBD1 reader and software Leroy sells. It can also set the timing.

Replace the ECM first as it is cheaper. Don't skip the electrical tests and cleaning or you will be out several hundred in parts with the same issue.

The code can be intermittent requiring a scanner or software above to see when it is 'active'. Clearing the code and then pressing the throttle to the floor engine off and letting it snap back can trigger the code on a bad sensor.

Last, see if you can return the PMD, combine the funds with what is needed for an APP sensor and convert the IP to a reliable mechanical DB2 for about the same money. PMD and APP cost adds up to a nice rebuilt DB2 IP cost.

Second link to the PDF is some other causes of code 36. This gets heavy duty into pining it down.
http://www.thetruckstop.us/forum/sh...ge-DS-6-5-DB2-5-7L-info-online-from-Stanadyne!
 
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