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Any one know Deutz diesel ? I need help

i seen plenty of cracks around the valve seat inserts but never on the injector bore.Been running localized hot maybe? plugged oil cooler and cyl cooling fins
you may have to replace that head,not much else you can do me thinks.
try getting a used one,new deutz part are rather high.
 
Acesneights1 said:
The 3 cyl Duetz in my New Holland seems to have cracked a head where the injector goes in.
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Pics maybe? :D I love New Hollands

Oh and X2 with Bison. If anything cracks on something as important as the heads(especially around a threaded opening) I'd replace it.
 
well the thing is the heads on these have no coolant so no issue with antifreeze leaks. ONly compression. I'm still trying to identify which motor it is.
 
If there's as much meat there as it looks, you might be able to get that welded up and if need be, resurfaced. Either way ( repair or replace) it's gonna have to come off so I'd try the weld for the hell of it. Nothing to lose...
On edit... Just don't prep for welding with brake cleaner!
 
I can't say I'm familiar with them, but I've been around a couple of their older ag tractor engines. They were air-cooled, and the problems farmer/neighbors had w/ them sometimes seemed to track back to dirt/chaf/dust, etc., settling into places that hurt the air-cooling efficiency to the point something got too hot & cracked.

The machine work on those engines was impressive & what you might expect from german engineering. A number of castings containing fluids/oils, etc., were machined smooth enough they simply bolted together w/ no gaskets or sealer.
 
Acesneights1 said:
Here is it.
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I would replace that head,the crack seems to be running straight trough the inj bore,With the heat/cool cycle. IMO #1 a weld wont seal it #2, it'll crack soon again.
further,these engines need to stay dry and clean around the cylinders and heads,any oil or fuel leaks will collect dirt and impair cooling wich my well have been the cause of this crack to start with.

These engines work best when run WOT under steady load as powerplants and such and will run for thousands of hrs without fail

With my europian experience with air cooled deutz engines or any other air cooled brands in farm tractors they where a constant PITA to keep clean .For that reason,i will never own one.
 
I hate to say this but I strongly suspect ether caused this. I couldn't get it started and it was cold and obviusly a block heater is out of the question so I gave it a small shot. I think this was the result. The only #s I could find on the motor were:
F3-6L 912/W
 
Bison,
I agree. I don't see how this could be welded. Unfortunatly this head is about 1200$. This is why I HATE Deutz. The parts are insane.
 
theres a tractor salvage in Humbolt, Saskatchewan who parts out deutz diesels,cant find his name and # though.

yea, parts are insane,thats another reason i dont want a deutz.
 
well, I got lucky A Deutz Dealer on LI hooked me up big time with a used head with new guides and seats. 400$ with all the gaskets. It is a 912 engine. The dealer thinks ether was what cracked it. He said I was lucky the piston rod is not bent.
 
Acesneights1 said:
well, I got lucky A Deutz Dealer on LI hooked me up big time with a used head with new guides and seats. 400$ with all the gaskets. It is a 912 engine. The dealer thinks ether was what cracked it. He said I was lucky the piston rod is not bent.
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If ether caused the head crack,dont hold your breath that the bottom end aint affected,it might show up yet.
 
The good thing is that these engines are basically like motor cycle engines. The cylinder is like a jug so it can be replaced regardless of damage.
 
The only thing I'm nervous about is checking the clearence on the head to piston. It can be adjusted two way, by either shimming the jug or using thicker fire rings. The guys at Long Island Deutz are really cool though. He copied the service manual with the procedure and is including it. Hopefully I can make sense of it. May need Chevylover(sven)to translate....:D
 
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