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1999 506 Long Block

Big T

Big T

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I have a 1999 506 (April ‘99) long block which failed and seized due to loss of oil pressure from an oil cooler line that failed. Engine never over heated. It was replaced with a new Optimizer 6.5 last August. I need to get rid of it as we are starting construction on a second garage.

I would happily give it to a TTS member, but shipping costs would ruin even the free economics.

Should I just sell it for scrap, or are there parts like the heads that could potentially be harvested?

Engine is up at Montana home and needs to be moved for construction. I probably need to make a decision on this in the next two weeks.
 
Pull and inspect the heads. Retain for the 94 (just in case) or discard if questionable. You’d be able to see the condition of most of the cylinders. That’s going to be the question for potential recipients.
Thinking that given your available time not being in MT now and construction starting soon, you may not be able to do all that so the scrap option becomes more probable.
 
Paveltolz said:
Pull and inspect the heads. Retain for the 94 (just in case) or discard if questionable. You’d be able to see the condition of most of the cylinders. That’s going to be the question for potential recipients.
Thinking that given your available time not being in MT now and construction starting soon, you may not be able to do all that so the scrap option becomes more probable.
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I will pull the heads on this trip and inspect.
 
Paveltolz said:
Pull and inspect the heads. Retain for the 94 (just in case) or discard if questionable. You’d be able to see the condition of most of the cylinders. That’s going to be the question for potential recipients.
Thinking that given your available time not being in MT now and construction starting soon, you may not be able to do all that so the scrap option becomes more probable.
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I'd rather see anybody pick it up and do all that
But then I'd like to see somebody clean out my spare parts.
 
Heads are most likely cracked just from age and GM casting. If no cracks then it's worth something.

Shipping via semi freight truck is somewhat affordable still, but you have to be able to load into the back of a truck from a shipping yard and receive at a shipping yard without incurring stupid "limited access fee" costs. It cost me less than 300 bucks to ship engines from my place in upstate NY to Chris' shop in SC. But that's because I have a tractor with pallet forks and I can drive a few miles down the road to a massive onion farm that has a loading dock and shipping/ receiving terminal where I can load the truck and pick up the crate when it gets delivered back there. The engines have been delivered to Chris' place of work which also has a loading dock and receiving area. If the truck was to come the 2.5 miles down the road to pick up or deliver the crate I'd be charged an extra $125 each time for the "limited access" fee which is total BS but is standard rules tariff for most freight companies.
 
DieselAmateur said:
*I meant to say if no cracks in the block. Assume heads are junk, crack free short block definitely has value. How much blow by if any?
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It did not have blowby, but suffered catastrophic oil loss from ruptured oil cooler line and seized at idle speed while coasting it down a mountain trail. Definitely not a high point in my life.
 
Jesus! just looked up a random freight from MT to TX and it showed me upwards of around 1k but I did put both pickup and drop off needing a lift gate.

receiving side here, I could possibly have a drop location at my work where forklifts are available. I will do some digging at work
 
I shipped a pallet that was strapped down with a 120 pound ancient anvil, portable forge blower and a lot of other items, from Miles City to Anchorage Alaska and that was $400.00.
Old Dominion picked the pallet at my house. I had my sons JD tractor with the loader on the front.
I have also used the lumber/hardware store near my house for the destination.
They have motorized forking lifts and they never charge me for their service.
 
@dbrannon79 central transport has the cheapest freight options in my experience. I used Freightquote by C.H. Robinson once https://www.freightquote.com/ and it was slightly cheaper. But then I soured on them when I asked for the courtesy of a phone call when the driver was a half hour away or so, as I needed to leave work, head home, hop on the tractor and drive a few miles to avoid the aforementioned "limited access" fee. Only to discover that they billed me extra for a "scheduled delivery" which I fought and got removed but it still rubbed me the wrong way that they are billing folks for a simple common courtesy. Central transport never charged me for such a request but their drivers weren't always the best at actually following through on it.

Regardless, if you can receive the engine at work and BigT can find a way to load it for cheap (any big farms nearby that have a loading dock and can help ya out?) FYI don't say that the pickup is at a farm, they also consider a farm a "limited access" location. Just call it an industrial loading zone and so far as they can see on satellite that there is enough room for a truck to enter and turn around you'll avoid the fee. Even better if there is a loading dock too.
 
I could get the block to Paveltolz. If he is willing, he frequently visits “family” in Tombstone, AZ. That would get it to within 12 hours of Seguin, TX. Just the block would weigh less and we’d cut down more than half the distance.

Before we get all work up over this, I need to verify the condition of the block.
 
Fingers crossed the seizure is just bearing related allowing pistons to be reusable. and no cracks! I think crank and rods from the 93 could make it whole again! swap over heads too.
 
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