Problem: Explain your problem in concise language (ie: Cranks but won’t fire). Cranks but will not start. None of the gauges or glow plug light come on. If I turn the key off and on for up to 5 minuets or so the glow plug light comes on and everything is wonderful again. I have no codes.
Demographics: tell us about your truck and your ambient conditions:
- Year:1995
- Truck model and class (ie: c2500) K1500
- Automatic or Standard Automatic
- Mileage: (indicate miles or km) 177500
- Replaced parts and mods (IP, PMD, chip/PCM, TM, injectors etc) none
Model: ‘S’ or ‘F’ engine, NA or Turbo, EGR? S
Ambient outside temp: (indicate *C or *F) 80 F
What fuel are you using? #2 Diesel
What fuel additives are you using? none
Where are you located? Minnesota
General maintenance: inspect and evaluate the condition of each. When were they last changed?
- Air filter 7000
- Fuel filter 7000
- CDR Valve? 15000
- Coolant – last flushed/replaced at 7000
- Oil – synthetic/regular, changed at Regular 15w40 2000
Batteries – state of charge, (matched set) replaced at 500 miles matched set
- Battery cables and grounds (removed, cleaned and tightened): 500 miles ago
- Glow Plugs - how many miles on them?15000
What type? 60g
- Injectors - last changed at haven't
History: (Describe how the problem first appeared.)
- What were you doing when it happened? 1st sign of trouble was after i 1st started truck and drive about a block or 2 truck would die, and i would have to turn key off and restart. also ABS light had came on and found I had blown a fuse, replaced it and ABS was fine after that then my Direction indicator located in the rear view mirror went out, but the lights in the mirror still work. now for the last 6 months it can take from 10 seconds up to 10 minuets to get the truck to start. no9w I can't get it to go at all.
- How was the truck running fine before this problem appeared? Truck ran fine other than above, no codes.
- Has this problem ever happened before? no
- Describe any related factors that might be part of the problem. See above
- Have you checked for DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes)? (Y.N) Y And? no codes
Diagnostics:
1] Starting:
1a] Does the engine start? If I can get the glow plugs to glow.
1b] Does the engine crank over? yes
1c] Are your batteries fully charged? yes
1d] Have you removed, cleaned, and tightened all battery connections? yes
1e] Does your Wait to Start light come on for a time? How long? no
1f] Does your glow plug light come on? no
For how long? If i can get it on for about 6 sec
1g] Do you see smoke from the exhaust while cranking? What color? no
1h] Does the Service Engine Light Glow during Start/bulb check? no
2] Fuel Issues (if not running):
2a] Can you hear your lift pump working? yes
2b] Do you get a steady flow of fuel from the water drain (T-handle) ? yes
2c] Loosen the inlet line from the IP – is fuel coming out (Lift Pump on)? yes
2d] Loosen an injector line and crank the engine - does fuel come out? yes
2e] Do you hear a vacuum (hiss) when you remove the fuel cap? yes
3] PMD / IP Issues
3a] Location of PMD (on pump, on intake, remote mounted) On pump
3b] Condition of Extension harness (if used) Vendor or Homemade? N/A
3c] Condition of grounds / ground wires to IP / PMD. Check Harness.
3d] PMD Make: ___________
3e] PMD Age: _____________
4] Stalling Issues
4a] Do you experience stalling only when hot? Usually when 1st started within 5 min of driving.
4b] Does it stall under particular circumstances? (ie hit bump, or on accel) ______
4c] Does pouring cool water over the IP seem to help with restarting? never tried
4d] Is stalling momentary (engine recovers)? yes
4e] Does SES light come on when engine hiccups? no_
4f] Does cruise control quit working when engine hiccups? no did stop working when ABS fuse was blown.
4g] Does re-starting seem to reset engine, restoring cruise and power?
4h] Changes to dash lights or instruments during stalling events? gauges all go dead.
5] Running Issues
5a] On cold start, does upper rad hose get hard before engine warms up? no
5b] Any bubbles or oil film in coolant overflow tank? no
5c] Any white slime on oil surfaces (dipstick, CDR, oil Fill cap)? no
5d] Excessive white smoke from exhaust on cold start? no
5e] Excessive black smoke from exhaust under hard acceleration? yes
6] Performance Issues
6a] Do you have gauges (boost, EGT) ? no
6b] Maximum boost under load? ____________
6c] Have you added a performance PCM (reflash) or Chip? no
6d] Have you changed exhaust / downpipe / crossover? no
6e] Wastegate – mechanical or vacuum (OEM)? vacuum
7] Temperature-related Issues:
7a] Single or dual thermostats? single
7b] Have you replaced them lately? Manufacturer of replacements? no
7c] Have you pulled and cleaned Radiator and coolers lately? 7000 miles
7d] Have you replaced the fan clutch? Manufacturer of replacement? no
7e] (winter) Have you tested your antifreeze? Good to what temp? -35 F
7f] (winter) Are you using a winter grille cover? no
List and describe any other factors which are not addressed in this checklist. We can’t see, hear, smell, or touch your truck, so the more descriptive information you can give, the more likely it is that somebody can assist you.
When I turn the key on and get no gauges or glow plugs, I tested the fuse for the gauges and it is getting a very faint light. This makes me believe that it is a ground problem. I just do not know where to look for the ground problem. The battery grounds and the Engine to body grounds seem good.
Demographics: tell us about your truck and your ambient conditions:
- Year:1995
- Truck model and class (ie: c2500) K1500
- Automatic or Standard Automatic
- Mileage: (indicate miles or km) 177500
- Replaced parts and mods (IP, PMD, chip/PCM, TM, injectors etc) none
Model: ‘S’ or ‘F’ engine, NA or Turbo, EGR? S
Ambient outside temp: (indicate *C or *F) 80 F
What fuel are you using? #2 Diesel
What fuel additives are you using? none
Where are you located? Minnesota
General maintenance: inspect and evaluate the condition of each. When were they last changed?
- Air filter 7000
- Fuel filter 7000
- CDR Valve? 15000
- Coolant – last flushed/replaced at 7000
- Oil – synthetic/regular, changed at Regular 15w40 2000
Batteries – state of charge, (matched set) replaced at 500 miles matched set
- Battery cables and grounds (removed, cleaned and tightened): 500 miles ago
- Glow Plugs - how many miles on them?15000
What type? 60g
- Injectors - last changed at haven't
History: (Describe how the problem first appeared.)
- What were you doing when it happened? 1st sign of trouble was after i 1st started truck and drive about a block or 2 truck would die, and i would have to turn key off and restart. also ABS light had came on and found I had blown a fuse, replaced it and ABS was fine after that then my Direction indicator located in the rear view mirror went out, but the lights in the mirror still work. now for the last 6 months it can take from 10 seconds up to 10 minuets to get the truck to start. no9w I can't get it to go at all.
- How was the truck running fine before this problem appeared? Truck ran fine other than above, no codes.
- Has this problem ever happened before? no
- Describe any related factors that might be part of the problem. See above
- Have you checked for DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes)? (Y.N) Y And? no codes
Diagnostics:
1] Starting:
1a] Does the engine start? If I can get the glow plugs to glow.
1b] Does the engine crank over? yes
1c] Are your batteries fully charged? yes
1d] Have you removed, cleaned, and tightened all battery connections? yes
1e] Does your Wait to Start light come on for a time? How long? no
1f] Does your glow plug light come on? no
For how long? If i can get it on for about 6 sec
1g] Do you see smoke from the exhaust while cranking? What color? no
1h] Does the Service Engine Light Glow during Start/bulb check? no
2] Fuel Issues (if not running):
2a] Can you hear your lift pump working? yes
2b] Do you get a steady flow of fuel from the water drain (T-handle) ? yes
2c] Loosen the inlet line from the IP – is fuel coming out (Lift Pump on)? yes
2d] Loosen an injector line and crank the engine - does fuel come out? yes
2e] Do you hear a vacuum (hiss) when you remove the fuel cap? yes
3] PMD / IP Issues
3a] Location of PMD (on pump, on intake, remote mounted) On pump
3b] Condition of Extension harness (if used) Vendor or Homemade? N/A
3c] Condition of grounds / ground wires to IP / PMD. Check Harness.
3d] PMD Make: ___________
3e] PMD Age: _____________
4] Stalling Issues
4a] Do you experience stalling only when hot? Usually when 1st started within 5 min of driving.
4b] Does it stall under particular circumstances? (ie hit bump, or on accel) ______
4c] Does pouring cool water over the IP seem to help with restarting? never tried
4d] Is stalling momentary (engine recovers)? yes
4e] Does SES light come on when engine hiccups? no_
4f] Does cruise control quit working when engine hiccups? no did stop working when ABS fuse was blown.
4g] Does re-starting seem to reset engine, restoring cruise and power?
4h] Changes to dash lights or instruments during stalling events? gauges all go dead.
5] Running Issues
5a] On cold start, does upper rad hose get hard before engine warms up? no
5b] Any bubbles or oil film in coolant overflow tank? no
5c] Any white slime on oil surfaces (dipstick, CDR, oil Fill cap)? no
5d] Excessive white smoke from exhaust on cold start? no
5e] Excessive black smoke from exhaust under hard acceleration? yes
6] Performance Issues
6a] Do you have gauges (boost, EGT) ? no
6b] Maximum boost under load? ____________
6c] Have you added a performance PCM (reflash) or Chip? no
6d] Have you changed exhaust / downpipe / crossover? no
6e] Wastegate – mechanical or vacuum (OEM)? vacuum
7] Temperature-related Issues:
7a] Single or dual thermostats? single
7b] Have you replaced them lately? Manufacturer of replacements? no
7c] Have you pulled and cleaned Radiator and coolers lately? 7000 miles
7d] Have you replaced the fan clutch? Manufacturer of replacement? no
7e] (winter) Have you tested your antifreeze? Good to what temp? -35 F
7f] (winter) Are you using a winter grille cover? no
List and describe any other factors which are not addressed in this checklist. We can’t see, hear, smell, or touch your truck, so the more descriptive information you can give, the more likely it is that somebody can assist you.
When I turn the key on and get no gauges or glow plugs, I tested the fuse for the gauges and it is getting a very faint light. This makes me believe that it is a ground problem. I just do not know where to look for the ground problem. The battery grounds and the Engine to body grounds seem good.
